Z-man says that the Alt-right needs its own form of Christianity:
The alt-right, like the larger dissident right, is a cultural phenomenon, not a political movement. Smart young males, mostly out of necessity, are picking up paleo-conservative ideas and questioning the prevailing orthodoxy. These ideas are being extended to question the core assumptions of modern American political order. It’s more akin to the Scientific Revolution than a political movement. The former was about rethinking our place in nature. The latter is about rethinking who gets to be in charge.
It’s why it feels like the alt-right is hostile to Christianity. It has to be. What is generally understood to be mainstream Christianity in America, has been hollowed out by Progressivism, and is now worn like an animal skin by crackpots and degenerates from the fringes of the Left. Even the more culturally conservative parts of the country practice a form of Private Protestantism than embraces extreme egalitarianism, anti-racism and universalism. It’s not an accident that these churches are deep into the refugee rackets.
I think most big names in the alt-right avoid the subject, mostly because it results in howls about how this is not real Episcopalianism or this is not real Christianity. It’s reminiscent of the days when academic Marxists would say the Soviet Union was not real Marxism. It may be theologically true that the current iterations of Christianity are outside the traditions and teachings of the faith, the fact remains that the people running mainstream Christianity these days look a lot like the faculty of your local gender studies department.
That’s not a small thing. The reason the New Left was able to sweep the field in the culture war, that included deposing the Old Left, is that their thing took on a quasi-religious tone. Humans are built to be believing machines. That’s a part of biological reality our side has yet to face, but it must be faced eventually. Something is going to have to fill the spiritual vacuum if this cultural phenomenon is going to be a cultural and then political movement. An Alt-Right form of Christianity would be a welcome development.
I know when you have a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail (or a skull waiting to be bashed in), but I feel like it is worthwhile to point out that r/K Theory is a hammer which can bash in the skulls of all sort of liberals, Churchians included.
Christianity’s problem is the inevitable influence of the r-psychology that arises when times are r. Inevitably, the church becomes infiltrated and subjugated as society declines.
You can see elements of r/K all throughout Christianity. What was the temptation that Adam succumbed to? The Apple – a form of food, or resources, which elicited dopamine. What encouraged the fall? The woman’s advice to forego hardship, and partake of pleasure and the man’s acquiescence to the woman’s advice, just like how in r-selection the females become dominant and aggressive, and the males become submissive. What was the solution? Christ came down and lived the example, and then endured the most agonizing punishment he could endure, accepting death, for the good of those he loved. Christianity is basically a master class in being K.
Fortunately, r/K is a great tool for dividing populations along the lines of r and K, especially as the K-shift approaches. I have never seen an idea which so polarizes people along ideological lines. I think the truth of it is what lends it potency, and both r’s and K’s see that truth. K’s love the truth and grow enraged, but r’s become enraged and frightened.
I saw on a leftist website where one of the pranksters here posted the r/K Theory page to their web-board, with a comment about feeling stupid even mentioning it (Thou shalt not lie…). You could see the leftists on the site cautiously turning the idea over with great trepidation. One even said that your’s truly had dipped into some potent weed to come up with the idea. Then he cautiously added that he hoped this didn’t catch on, or become something bigger that they would have to deal with, because it could be dangerous. Leftists know, and they know within moments of perusing the idea.
Christianity is an inherently K-environment, filled with inherently K-people. Christians tend to be Christians because they see the errors of the hedonistic rabbitry in society, and they have some desire to lead virtuous lives of personal sacrifice for greater good. Those are really K-lives, since in humans K is the root of most virtues and the willingness to sacrifice. Drop r/K Theory into Christianity, convince them that God created a K-world because he values K, and watch as the majority of Christians embrace the broader concept of K as God’s desire for the universe.
Introduce r/K into the Church, and all of a sudden the women/lesbians/transgenders/feminized-men who are the Churchians begin to look like the serpent offering their congregations the apple of reduced conflict, reduced aggression, reduced adherence to the Lord’s word, reduced reverence for traditional family, increased tolerance for sin, and increased goodfeelz in violation of the Lord’s will.
If all of that is seen in the light of r/K, and it is made clear God created a K-world, and values K-ideals and K-virtues, because he wants man to be K, the Churchian SJWs will have a rougher time of converging the Churches.
r/K is a key that opens many locks, but it is also a weapon that can poison many SJW hornet nests as well.
The 10 commandments, very, very K.
some notes
Interfaith dialogue can often break the 1st or 2nd commandments.
“Thou shalt not kill” actually translates to “Thou shalt not murder”
Legitimate self defense and war are OK times to kill.
The bible also defines adultery as sleeping with a married woman. Unmarried- you’re OK, but she is a harlot if you compensate her so take note, otherwise it’s fornication, only solved through marriage. This is why you always have to pay if you’re on a date if you’re a dude, and women (harlots) should always let the man pay, otherwise God doesn’t like it. Letting the woman pay is r, and sinful.
Also, don’t covet your neighbors stuff. Go get your own stuff.
If you read accounts of civilizations under attack by christianity, like Ancient Rome, you’ll notice that they mention conversion of the stupid & criminal first.
R vs K? Christianity also banned arranged marriage in Europe & destroyed many of its ancient monuments. Changing the culture from an ideal of Warrior Worship to a limp jew on a cross is K? Come on.
Yes in the current context christians appear less progressive than the latest Abrahamic ideology of liberalism, this is all relative.
http://mosmaiorum.org/persecution_list.html
https://devayasna.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/religion-counter-religion-and-the-weirdness-of-modernity
OT But you know what’s frustrating:
reddit.com/r/collapse
Even when people know the apocalypse is coming many still advocate socialism as an alternative blaming capitalism for the apocalypse.
A religion they will take with them even unto the grave even as things turn K.
Religion is neighter r or K, its a social device to manage both sides so that they live and be productive within one society.
I recently read an excellent book about a K-friendly Christian monastic order: The Heretics of St. Possenti, by Rolf Nelson. Highly recommended! Also highly recommended for the same reason is: The Last Day, by James Landis, about a sniper who meets Jesus.
Among “R-Selected People Who Claim To Be Religious”, I’ve noticed that a rejection of the existence of hell is extremely common. Too triggering and upsetting for rabbits!
Yes! Which implies they know something. I’ve often thought about that to myself.
In “The End of Racism” Dinesh D’Souza tells the story of a woman learning about Darwin’s theory of evolution back when it was new. She said “I pray it is not true, but if it is true let us hope it does not become generally known.”
I’m not religious myself, and I don’t see myself adopting Christianity or some other religion just because believing might make things better for me. I can come up with all sorts of logical explanations for why I shouldn’t go about stealing and murdering my neighbors, I don’t need a God to tell me what is blatantly obvious. I understand that a large segment of the population is too stupid to figure it out themselves so they need a religion to tell them, as mere logic and reason is beyond their capabilities.
I can understand if people argue that religion is a good way to keep the unwashed masses at least somewhat decent, so long as they don’t try to BS me about being true believers themselves. I can also see how religion, especially religious ceremonies that bring communities together on a regular basis, can help maintain social cohesion. Society without regular church attendance has become so atomized that I recall as a kid knowing my neighbors, but now I hardly talk to them at all. If religion has any utility at all, it was this social aspect of holding the community together.
You never know. You might see something someday. I view it like Donald Trump. I don’t need Donald Trump to tell me right from wrong. But if Donald Trump needed help with something, I’d be happy to offer it because we are o0n the same wavelength. And if I found out one day he had gone out of his way to help me gratuitously, I’d feel like I owed him, and want to help him back. Once you are on that team, it provides a greater purpose.
Don’t believe because anyone told you to, but keep your eyes open. If He wants you He’ll let you know.
Hey anonymous, I have been started to go church myself lately.
This jorunary came from after started fasting for a couple of weeks in 24 hours periods for 3 days in a week. I got this idea from one of the guys suggesting it in the r/K group on facebook.
I realize life was empty and needed both a community and some more life lessons also after meeting cam from game quitters, I ended up chartering about quitting addictions and finding ways to be more productive. I needed something else to do that was not video games.
I could of gone to uni but the leftist and Pc would start to drive me crazy. I decide to try a couple of churches out and I find one after missing a meetup for christian singles on Sunday So I check out the group on a special Wednesday night service. They were going over the ancient Greek word for Love, how it has four different types with different meaning. The different bible verses can be seen different if looked up in the original Greek. I knew this group was not full of K types and smart (everyone reads the bible and a lot study history). This was in part to the way the women acted, most couples had kids and the men were dress up. I found out some even home school their kids. By the way no kids on iPad’s around.
It is probably in part because the church is mostly whites with a couple of Chinese and Koreans.
Anyway I thought I would share that with you.
By the way I will leave you with this from Matthew 7: 15 to 20. I thought of the European, Hillary and Canadan leaders in 2016 to 2017 after reading this one:
15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
I hope your journey rewards you greatly.
Best,
AC
Three words: Pastor Steven Anderson.