News Briefs – 04/17/2022

Here are some news stories that might be of interest. Most articles will be more or less summarized in the headline. You can skim the headlines and summaries, and click the links if they are of interest. Keep in mind, many of these reports are products of an unreliable news media, so although they will be what people are hearing and talking about, there is no guarantee any one of them is necessarily correct, and we have had cases of outright lies make it onto these pages.

This is a link to the comments section for our beloved phone-posters who have been having trouble finding where the comments begin.

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Elon Musk is a former Klaus Schwab WEF young global leader. From here: “Elon Musk, the chairman of Tesla Motors, the much-publicized electric sports-car company, is a new YGL.” And they have tried to hide it. At this point there is a pretty good chance nobody you see, good or bad, is uncompromised. But it may mean the hidden hand has decided this management team is no longer competent enough to run things, so it is changing the old guard we see.

Twitter’s Board of Directors own almost no shares of stock in the company, Elon Musk notes “their economic interests are simply not aligned with shareholders.”

One of Twitter’s board members has never logged in to Twitter.

Elon may be going around management, and asking shareholders to sell him their stock directly:

According to Kash Patel, Elon Musk is the Department of Defense’s (DoD’s) biggest contractor. If CIA tried to hit Mil Intel with Bradley Manning, and Snowden was a CIA hit on NSA, Elon could be striking back at CIA:

 

Could a wealthy conservative take over our elections overnight and expose all the fraud by launching a hostile takeover of Dominion Voting Systems?

Durham says CIA found data alleging Trump-Russia connection not ‘technically plausible,’ was ‘user created.’

Former Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman, who is accused of lying to the FBI when he claimed he was not handing over information about then-candidate Donald Trump in 2016, made false statements to CIA officers in a meeting after Trump was sworn into office, according to new filings by Special Counsel John Durham’s team.

CIA notes confirm US Intelligence officials targeted Trump after he was elected and ran a coup on President Trump while in office.

Durham has granted immunity to “Researcher-2” – identified as David Dagon (Dagon raised concerns to Sussmann that the Trump data “was being unlawfully collected and used,”) and Christopher Steele.

Russiagate hoaxer and serial liar Adam Schiff is producing videos to promote himself as Speaker of the House.

Biden gang proposes having USAID (which is connected to Soros) manage assets the US takes from Russians during Ukraine war.

Hunter emails reveal the Biden family hates Hillary. Can you imagine being Hunter Biden, an incompetent criminal without the intelligence to be a major crime threat, and you are looking at Mastermind Hillary floating around free as a bird?

Michigan school under fire after student leaks “McCarthyist” questionnaire. When challenged the school said it was an exercise to simulate McCarthyism, and after the students filled it out and submitted it, and they collected all of them, they destroyed all of them and did not save any of the information. And this was not the first time they have done it, and nobody complained. So everything is fine and people can stop making a big deal about it. What do you think was going on here? People are going to find out schools were a key intelligence gathering hub used by the machine to gather intelligence on all of its enemies, long before its enemies even knew there was any enemy. The questions:

What is your computer name? Do not abbreviate.

What is your home address?

Do you have a mailing address that is separate from your home address here?

How many people live in your home?

Do you live with both your parents? If no, with whom do you live? Explain why you do not live with your parents.

Do you attend a church on a regular basis? If yes, write the name of the church. If no, explain why not.

How many bedrooms are in the house in which you live?

Has anyone in your family ever been accused or convicted of a crime? If ye, explain.

Have you ever been trouble at school? If yes, explain what you did wrong to get in trouble.

Do the adults in your family regularly vote in elections? If yes, for which political party (Democrat, Republican, other) do they usually vote? If no, explain why they do not vote regularly.

Does your family have a car? What kind of car do they have? Is it paid for?

How often do you visit a doctor? What reasons have you for visiting a doctor on a usual basis?

Have you ever talked to a counsellor at school or been to a pshychologist? Has any member of your family ever been to a psychologist? If yes, why were these visits necessary?

The majority of Rep. Liz Cheney’s donors do not live in Wyoming.

Accused federal agent fakers in Secret Service bribery scandal get home confinement.

FDA and Pfizer knew the COVID shot caused immunosuppression.

An American Airlines Pilot, Robert Snow, was in the cockpit of a plane that had just landed on Thursday when his heart stopped due to what was described as “severe post-vaccination cardiac arrest,” according to reports.

Woman Dies from Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease after second Pfizer ‘vaccine’, husband warns we’re ‘Guinea Pigs.’

The WHO has proposed sanctions for any countries that disobey their global pandemic rules.

The Department of Education revealed in a recent report that it will consider grant applications, in part, based on how “equity” is incorporated into grant proposals. Again, it makes it subjective, and acts as a cover for them just giving grants to whoever is in the network, and freezing out all the regular Americans.

Three staffers for top Houston Democrat indicted on felony corruption charges for allegedly rigging an $11 million bid for a COVID vaccine program. One was an  ‘analytics director’ for HRC’s 2016 campaign.

After specializing in abortions and baby body part sales, Planned Parenthood is now raking in dollars in transgender services.

Ludlow Public Schools secretly promoted our kids’ gender transition, parents allege. Amazing such profoundly sick people are the ones who are put in charge of teaching children.

Parent dressed as Easter Bunny hands out eggs with condoms inside to children at Austin Elementary School.

Media that gleefully pilloried the Catholic Church over pedophilia charges avert their eyes over much larger schoolteacher pedophilia problem.

12 injured, three people detained after shooting at South Carolina mall. Sounds like normal gang stuff though.

File as a rumor for now – “FBI and DOJ have ordered legacy media to back off the factoid New York Subway shooter Frank James was on the FBI’s radar. To clarify, not only was he known by the FBI, his phone visited the Philadelphia FBI office for 40 minutes, just before the subway shooting.” If they need a real false flag, they may have to produce it, to prevent a ballsy American from ruining it by killing their shooter. A complete production is the only way they can make sure some armed New Yorker doesn’t pull out a gun and kill their shooter, and thus actually show why the Supreme Court should rule for gun rights.

Authorities in Pennsylvania are searching for a missing portable nuclear soil testing device containing radioactive material that belongs to a local construction inspection company after the vehicle it was in was stolen. Looks like it contains a gamma emitter, which is bad radiation. But likely not a planned theft for the radioactive material.

Just drove through York, Lancaster, Chester, and Montgomery Counties and didn’t see a single sign for Dr Oz. Everybody will vote for him because Trump endorsed him, but nobody actually likes him. Hopefully he will understand he is only alive politically because of Trump, and he will follow Trump’s orders.

Mitt Romney knocked unconscious and suffers a black eye after a fall.

They are trying to kill Tim Pool.

This link notes Alex Jones supposedly got caught with tranny porn on his phone, and now there is this tweet from a tranny, implying he is Alex’s Tranny “Queen.” I am still so naive I saw the pic on Q’s board of the two of them together and assumed at first it had to be a photoshop, it was so ridiculous. I almost wonder if Alex is getting in over his head with the Sandy Hook thing, and this is his way of biting the bullet and giving Cabal the blackmail it wants, so he can be a more valued employee. Or maybe Cabal MK Ultras its assets, and cases like this are where they used one for an experiment, to see how much they could warp them.

Anthony Fauci funded an HIV tracking project for teenage prostitutes in China. If HIV was in vulnerable teens there, and they were grabbing up vulnerable teens for trafficking, they would want to know which ones were infected, and which were not.

China is in hoarding mode right now, and it’s pushing grain prices to historic highs.

One for the melonhead archives.

Duck Duck Go doubles down:

In what appears Moscow’s “answer” to the US and NATO countries continuing to supply major weapons systems to Ukrainian forces, state agency TASS is claiming that Russian forces have brought down a Ukrainian military transport plane that was transporting Western arms.

Russia captures a second British mercenary.

From here:

Francis Boyle, Ph.D., a Harvard educated lawyer and bioweapons expert with a Ph.D. in political science, was interviewed recently about the Bio-Labs in Ukraine…

While the U.S. has vehemently denied Russia’s accusations, Boyle says that based on what he’s discovered so far, the labs in Ukraine are all conducting biological warfare research — including ethnic-specific biological weapons — at the behest of the U.S. Pentagon, just as Russian authorities are claiming…. According to Boyle, the U.S. government and Pentagon have had a “comprehensive policy” in place for quite some time to “surround Russia with biological warfare laboratories” and “preposition biological weapons” there for use against Russia. The U.S. also has these kinds of labs in Central Asia, he says.

Germany involved in ‘military biological activities’ in Ukraine.

Ukrainian officials have run more than 8,600 facial recognition searches on dead or captured Russian soldiers in the 50 days since Moscow’s invasion began, using the scans to identify bodies and contact hundreds of their families in what may be one of the most gruesome applications of the technology to date. That regime is the most evil, despicable regime short of our own Cabal-government. Even those Russian kids were just caught up in service to their country. To go on to target their mothers is inhuman.

Russia says urban areas of Mariupol are clear of Ukrainian forces as Zelenskyy vows to end talks.

Russia orders any remaining Ukrainian forces in other areas of Mariupol to surrender by Sunday morning.

Russian air defense shot down plane with Western arms for Ukraine near Odessa.

Russian state television declared Friday night of the Ukraine special operation, “What it’s escalated into can safely be called World War III – that’s entirely for sure. Now we’re definitely fighting against NATO infrastructure, if not NATO itself. We need to recognize that.”

As pro-Russian demonstrations explode across Europe, the elites try to blame it all on Putin.

More red states join the lawsuit to stop Biden from revoking Title 42.

Just 35% of California residents approve of Kamala’s job in the White House in the face of skyrocketing inflation and a deepening border crisis.

A professor was punished for refusing to use preferred pronouns – he sued and just settled for $400K.

Special Grand Jury is investigating Loudoun County’s cover-up of trans school bathroom rapes.

The Florida Department of Education has rejected 54 math textbooks for next school year due to “attempts to indoctrinate students,” with Critical Race Theory, common core, and “social emotional learning.”

Fourth Texas migrant bus arrives in DC near US Capitol.

New polls from The Tragalgar Group show Dr. Oz leading Pennsylvania Senate candidates and Doug Mastriano the leader among Gubernatorial candidates.

Trump-backed Vernon Jones leads Georgia 10th District in tight primary.

Gallup poll show Biden job approval down most among the younger generations.

Spread r/K Theory, because life is the fight.

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Philalethes
Philalethes
2 years ago

Re: “Michigan school under fire after student leaks ‘McCarthyist’ questionnaire.” Yeah, I remember McCarthy. The daily Herblock (tip: check paternal ancestry) cartoons in the newspaper showing McCarthy with scowl, 5-o’clock shadow, a bucket of tar and a brush. I remember one evening at the dinner table feeling worried for my parents when I heard them criticizing the government (I was in primary school, absorbing the zeitgeist). It wasn’t until ~35 years later that I learned McCarthy was right. 
Yeah, he had an unattractive personality, which made it easy for America’s enemies (who indeed heavily infested government, media and other institutions already then) to vilify and destroy him. It kind of burns me up to see the name of an honest American patriot being used like this as a byword for “evil”. But of course, the same people are still in control. 

wlindsaywheeler
Reply to  Philalethes
2 years ago

Sen. Joe McCarthy was a Christian Prophet warning of Marxism in America–and the conservatives blew him off. So did the Catholics. Shame on them all.

And this is why I hate now the American military with a passion—it was THEY who crucified him and slandered him! Fuck you US Military! As in the words of the Black Conservative, “You, Traitorous Rat Bastards”.
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Now, the US Military is fully a Communist/Marxist organization that sucks Joooo cock.
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You allowed TWO coups, did nothing. We are being genocided by ethnic dilution–and sit by. Fuck YOU, Fuck the US Military! Traitorous Rat Bastards.
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Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Philalethes
2 years ago

“…McCarthy was right. 
Yeah, he had an unattractive personality…”

I read a really long time ago a biography of Clinton Williams Murchison Jr. The son of Clint Murchison Sr who was huge rich oil man in Texas. I remember clearly that in the book they said McCarthy came to their ranch, got roaring drunk, berated his wife and pushed her into Clint pool publically. It really made me , and supposedly, Clint, think of McCarthy negatively. Now I wonder, maybe this was all bullshit. Maybe the only people who really thought McCarthy was evil was the commie Jews and their blackmailed followers.

I’m just saying we really don’t know if McCarthy was a evil man or not. We do know that he was right about the commies in the government. That’s a fact.

Atavisionary
Atavisionary
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

Being an obnoxious Drunk and being evil probably aren’t the same thing most of the time. He could have easily been both right and on to something noble while hitting the bottle too hard at the same time. In fact, if he was on to something the hidden hand would have looked for the path of least resistance to derailing him, which in this case may have been temptations towards intemperance.

TRX
TRX
2 years ago

> Russia orders any remaining Ukrainian forces in other areas of Mariupol to surrender by Sunday morning.

Russia needs to get its act together. If they let this drag on too long, there’s a good chance that they’ll wind up with Ukraine in the place that Ireland holds with Britain: a province that has incorporated rebellion and violence as its new culture. And unlike Ireland, Ukraine has a bunch of foreign powers invested in its politics.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  TRX
2 years ago

I don’t think Russia intends to stay in Ukraine except for the breakaway republics.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Farcesensitive
2 years ago

I agree with Farcesensitive. They will peel off the eastern and southern areas on the Black sea and let the rest rot. All the important areas are located in the ares Russian wants to peel off. All these areas are pro Russian so on their own will drive off any problem citizens.

TRX
TRX
2 years ago

> A professor was punished for refusing to use preferred pronouns – he sued and just settled for $400K.

I can honestly say, in this age of Wokeness, that I did not see that coming.

Atavisionary
Atavisionary
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
2 years ago

>”crazy” mob who murders all the groomers and wokesters.

https://youtu.be/uVdDXeYM4ss?t=13

Ed
Ed
2 years ago

New polls from The Tragalgar Group show Dr. Oz leading Pennsylvania Senate candidates and Doug Mastriano the leader among Gubernatorial candidates.

I’ve not seen many polls on these races until now. The quality of the candidates running for Governor are significantly better than for Senator, and this is somewhat true of the Democrats as well.

The take away is that the leaders in both race are at 22% to 23%, and both lead their nearest challengers by only 3%. I think the Oz endorsement is ridiculous, so if the election were held tomorrow, if you are MAGA, you would want to vote for Mastriano and Barnette, as the two not-Oz candidates best positioned against the two leading country club Republican candidates, McCormick and McSwain. Barnette is third in the Senate race, but only about 4% behind the leader, so there is no reason to vote for Oz, and she at least actually lives in Pennsylvania. But there is a month to go, no debates have happened yet, and a lot can change.

Max Barrage
Max Barrage
Reply to  Ed
2 years ago

I live in PA, there’s no way in hell that I will vote for Oz. I don’t think Trumps endorsement will mean jack shite, despite what the BS polls say. Mastriano is a good candidate though.

highanglehell
highanglehell
2 years ago

hey i’m the first to comment. the comments link didn’t work for me.

Rex Regum veniet
Rex Regum veniet
Reply to  highanglehell
2 years ago

hello “the first to comment” how are you? That must be your name since your comment is the 7th or something, and apparently the link did work.
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highanglehell
highanglehell
2 years ago

i am a human not a luminatii. i read this newsfeed every day when i wake up. my go to news. have concluded that it’s some evil extresstrial entity thats promoting war death and insanity. the devil Ahrimon and thats pretty much the jist of everything i will have to contribute here. in the comments section. in the world that the devil Arhimon has created. which we are supposed to resist

Rex Regum veniet
Rex Regum veniet
Reply to  highanglehell
2 years ago

Yes we are supposed to resist. Also, hear Him, your Savior, Jesus Christ.
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phelps
Reply to  Rex Regum veniet
2 years ago

Love the pic. We covered Matthew 26:31-46, and when Peter boasts in this passage, I always think of that.
It’s also the thing that reminds me that Owen Benjamin is most like Peter.

wlindsaywheeler
2 years ago

So we are supposed to have “freedom”. So how does one have “freedom” when we do NOT control our own destiny as a people?

So today on Meet the Press, where they talk about politics and FORM THE NARRATIVE. Who was in the panel of commentators?

Well, the host of the show and moderator is Chuck Todd, a JEW.
The panel included:
Amna Nawaz—-ARAB
Eugene Daniels—BLACK with Pink Sports Jacket w/painted fingernails
Ruth Marcus—-JEW editor of Wash Post
and Contenelli —ITALIAN from some conservative website.

Jews comprise 1% of the population of America—YET—They are THE MAJORITY here on the panel comprising 40% of the panel!

Do you see any American Heritage people there? Anglo-Saxons started this country—and NOT one Single Anglo-Saxon on a show that creates and drives the Narrative!!!!!

HEY YOU STOOOOPID goyim—YOU DO NOT have freedom in this country because you do NOT control ONE Iota of your destiny. As Paul Craig Roberts said, ‘We are being ERASED”. In OUR OWN damn country, we are being erased!

I HATE THIS COUNTRY WITH A PASSION.

wlindsaywheeler
2 years ago

Why America is false.

America is really based on having a “neutral” society. That is what the FFofA attempted to create. But the laws of the land, at that time, revolved around Christianity to some extent.

Page now to once Catholic Spain: Socialist Spain Makes ‘Annoying’ Abortion Protests a Crime (breitbart.com)

Ohhh, wait—the Liberals and the Anarchists that destroyed Catholic Spain—are NOW instituting totalitarianism?!?!

Look at that—Anarchists and Liberals went on a shooting war to tear down ‘totalitarian’ Catholic Spain—and NOW, what are they doing—instituting their own Evil Totalitarian state. This has already happened in Lockean England and is coming to America! The principle of ‘Free Speech’ is being undermined and attacked by almost every institution in America! What is happening in Spain is happening now. Alex Jones, silenced; President Trump, silenced; Already.

Life is War. There is NO such thing as a neutral state. Nothing in Nature is Neutral. Good and Evil are at War. Either you must have Good Rule—Or Evil Rules; God ordained strife between them in Genesis–and the FFofA can NOT abrogate that!

Under Catholic hegemony, the freaks and evil were at bay. NOW, the good are persecuted and even now, being put to death. Evil seeks to kill.

In any human society, there is NO such thing as a neutral state—GET THAT BETWEEN YOUR EARS! America is a fallacy.
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Sam J.
Sam J.
2 years ago

Some of the first link is very speculative but I included it for wild specualtion.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200111015801/https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/http-fellowshipoftheminds-com-2018-07-26-the-black-eye-club

Sen. Harry Reid was sporting a sling on his arm and a goose egg over his left eye Wednesday after he slipped while jogging and dislocated his right shoulder.

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Harry Reid Breaks Face & Ribs In Exercise Accident.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2518798/images/o-HARRY-REID-facebook.jpg

John Kerry’s hockey accident, two black eyes and a broken nose.

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John Kerry Breaks Leg in Bike Accident

No pictures. I guess they told hm not to. I haven’t been able to find a single picture of him doing this even though they said he was riding a section of the Tour De France for charity. No cameras?????

George W. Bush choked on pretzel

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Jimmy Carter Makes First Public Appearance After Falling at His Home in Georgia

https://people.com/politics/jimmy-carter-first-public-appearance-black-eye-after-fall/

Mitt Romney Knocked Unconscious, Suffers a Black Eye After Fall

https://conservativebrief.com/mitt-romney-36115/

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-01032018/#comment-331431

“…Harry Reid is dying of pancreatic cancer, “does not have long to live.”

I think when they want something and couldn’t get it they would just beat the shit out of them until they relented. Look at these pictures. There’s no way the injuries they had line up with how they say they happened. And to think, they got away with this. Maybe I’m wrong about this but it seems impossible these type injuries come from tripping. No one just let’s themselves face plant like that. They throw their arms out. If they did face plant then their noses would be crushed. Really bad. And stitches in the lips, please.

By the way where are these double space line feeds coming from??? If you paste into the comment box, add a few things then copy straight off this comment box somehow you end up with two clear lines like you hit enter twice?????

And thanks for putting up with all this AC. You know we love you for all the grief and turmoil to keep this going.

Thesokorus
Thesokorus
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

I think Romney got a promotion in Cabal. Or got jumped in.

Stern
Stern
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

The first rule of Fight Club is…

Jaded Jurist
Jaded Jurist
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

FOTM is not as reliable as Dr. Eowyn would have you believe. It’s a decent source of news that didn’t make the news, but sometimes that’s because itthe “news” is beyond credible. Unlike our host here, Eowyn is an unfair and mean -spirited Catholic, and I believe she’s much more gullible than she realizes. No way to tell her that, of course, because in her mind she’s such a rigorous academic.

Sam J.
Sam J.
2 years ago

“…“Elon Musk, the chairman of Tesla Motors, the much-publicized electric sports-car company, is a new YGL.”…”

What annoys me so much about the Musk Hasbara disinfo attack on Musk is not so much that I think Musk is some sort of walk on water savior who will save us. I don’t, He’s a real asshole and ruthless as any other billionaire. None the less I have said and still say the stuff he has worked on is big time in the interest of the USA National security and it’s people’s personal well-being or at least so far.

What really pisses me off is all these posts are hit jobs. They throw out, Musk is CIA, Musk got money for SpaceX so he’s a government agent, Musk got this, Musk got that. None of them tell you that he got no special treatment. All the money he has gotten from the government were from programs that have long been sought by Congress. Making sure we can NOT be held hostage by oil producers is a big time security guarantee. This means electric cars. They have their faults but running out of gas and having the whole car nothing but a useless hunk of metal if there’s an embargo is not one of them.

And please…that he got money for making an actual rocket so that we don’t have to rely on the “Russians” to put our astronauts into space. Try to defend the argument that giving Musk money was stupid and we should have just stuck with giving the Russians $60 million an astronaut to ride on Russian rockets. See how that flies.

Some quotes and links explaining the electric car program. And by the way, Tesla’s cars now have no subsidies.

“…Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing (ATVM) Loan Program is a $25 billion direct loan program funded by Congress in fall 2008…””…

“…USDOE announced in 2009 $8.4 billion in conditional loan agreements for Ford Motor Company; Nissan North America, Inc.; Tesla Motors, Inc. and Fisker Automotive to fund the development of advanced vehicle technologies…”

NOTICE, Musk already had been successfully selling the Roadster before he got loan guarantees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Technology_Vehicles_Manufacturing_Loan_Program

Now the next quote is from a Tesla history page.

“…In June 2009 Tesla was approved to receive US$465 million in interest-bearing loans…”

https://www.companieshistory.com/tesla-motors/

Now the Hasbara will give you the above quote but not the context that many other companies got money also. In fact, he’s the only one that really lived by the spirit and the law of the loan, using all the money for total electric cars, and the only one that paid it back.

If you look at the history page you see that most of the funding Tesla in the first Roadster sport car came from Musk. A lot of the rest he raised by beating the bushes all over and also from friends of his in the Silicon Valley that knew him. Furthermore, when the Roadster was successful and he started selling a lot of them a mass of further finding arrived. HE HAD SUCCEEDED at what he said he was going to do. Nothing rounds up cash flow like success and even more if you are a two time winner, making a lot of people a lot of money with his digital yellow pages and PayPal. People made shit loads of money that invested in his companies and from their perspective now he has a fully working, superfast kick ass sports car totally electric. I think you people do not begin to understand how electric cars are lusted after by the Silicon Valley and environmentalist types. They love these things.

So now let me cover the,

“…“Elon Musk, the chairman of Tesla Motors, the much-publicized electric sports-car company, is a new YGL.”…”

Musk had ALREADY ARRIVED by the time they invited him in. They were on the tail end of him being totally successful in making electric cars. They were on the tail end of him making hundreds of millions in several companies. So in fact they have no real hold over him at all. They are trying to draw him in to their bunch. They DID NOT make him. He made himself. Look at the timeline of these things happening and you will see this clearly.

A large part of the Musk complaints are really crooked rotten gas-lighting innuendo. I rally hate this stuff. It’s less Musk himself I’m defending, but more railing at the intense narcissistic gaslighting and dishonesty that surrounds us. This constant fire hose of lies really annoys me.

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

ll the money he has gotten from the government were from programs that have long been sought by Congress.”

Congress creates these programs to launder money among themselves and their insiders. If Musk got money, then he is already one of them.

If you look at the history page you see that most of the funding Tesla in the first Roadster sport car came from Musk. A lot of the rest he raised by beating the bushes all over and also from friends of his in the Silicon Valley that knew him. 

No, the Tesla Roadster, which was a Lotus Elan with an all-electric drivetrain, preceded Musk’s involvement in the company. He just bought into a firm that already had an existing product. The original creators of the Tesla Roadster were then “Nikolai-Tesla’d” by Elon Musk.

“all the money he has gotten from the government were from programs that have long been sought by Congress. Making sure we can NOT be held hostage by oil producers is a big time security guarantee. This means electric cars. They have their faults but running out of gas and having the whole car nothing but a useless hunk of metal if there’s an embargo is not one of them.”

The electric car is built on the hoax of climate change and the fallacy of peak oil. Both are designed to push policies that deny the average, working-class person access to resources, of which the electric car is the perfect exemplar. This is how you think the US government looks out for you? And what security is there when you shift from oil, of which America has plenty of, to rare earth minerals, where most have to be imported? Remember, the Chinese can set the marginal price of rare-earth minerals. These factors combine to guarantee one thing in your future: you will not have any car, but you will have an electric bike.

The eco and silicon valley set that loves Teslas also think they are winning in Ukraine.

Again, Musk has sold the stupid an Apple Newton masquerading as an Apple iPad.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  map
2 years ago

“…Congress creates these programs to launder money among themselves and their insiders. If Musk got money, then he is already one of them…”

The straight-up Jew tactic. Say some bullshit but provide no proof at all. I say you are a Jew, therefore it is true.
“…No, the Tesla Roadster, which was a Lotus Elan with an all-electric drivetrain, preceded Musk’s involvement in the company. He just bought into a firm that already had an existing product…”

You’re a liar. They were building this but he had a huge input in the engineering and all portions of the company. They DID NOT have this all put together when he bought in to the company and without his money and him bringing in new financing I doubt it would have ever been built. Other companies tried and failed.

“…The electric car is built on the hoax of climate change and the fallacy of peak oil. Both are designed to push policies that deny the average, working-class person access to resources, of which the electric car is the perfect exemplar….”

You’re not only a lair you’re stupid as I just said that no one can shut off your ability to make your own electricity but they can damn sure shut off the fuel. Defend the position that no one can make electricity. Try it.

“…And what security is there when you shift from oil, of which America has plenty of, to rare earth minerals, where most have to be imported?…”

I want all of you to understand that map has no idea of what he is talking about. First, the US has plenty of rare earth minerals. The EPA is keeping them from mining it due to where there is rare earths there’s also Thorium, so they are saying that thorium is hazardous waste making it uneconomical. In fact we have tons and tons of thorium buried in the desert in drums from rare earth mining. We could continue this but the EPA has stopped it. Strike one.

Map also knows fuck all about electric motors. The first motors were AC synchronous mothers and need no rare earth minerals at all. They could continue with those. Some of their motors did contain rare earths but now they have taken almost all of these out, bear in mind they need none at all, and their motors now are mostly reluctance motors. map does not know this so spouts ignorant stupidity. He’s too stupid to know that he’s making a fool of himself and directly displaying his ignorance of the subject.

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

You’re a liar. They were building this but he had a huge input in the engineering and all portions of the company. They DID NOT have this all put together when he bought in to the company and without his money and him bringing in new financing I doubt it would have ever been built. Other companies tried and failed.”

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Hot-sports-car-with-no-gas-tank-Electric-2514556.php#photo-2653955

Look at the pictures. Notice how there are no pictures of Musk in any of them. Eberhard founded the company in 2002 and Musk showed up in 2004 with a bag of money. Musk is not an engineer or a designer. There is no mention of any Musk engineering contributions.

https://www.wired.com/2009/06/eberhard/

Here’s the lawsuit where Musk claims that he invented the Tesla.

You’re not only a lair you’re stupid as I just said that no one can shut off your ability to make your own electricity but they can damn sure shut off the fuel. Defend the position that no one can make electricity. Try it.”

Electricity is all about running a turbine. I could attach that to a bike chain and run “electricity.” But for the kind of “stock and flow” you need to power everyday things, you need grids and central stations with something driving industrial-scale turbines.

I want all of you to understand that map has no idea of what he is talking about. First, the US has plenty of rare earth minerals. The EPA is keeping them from mining it due to where there is rare earths there’s also Thorium, so they are saying that thorium is hazardous waste making it uneconomical. In fact we have tons and tons of thorium buried in the desert in drums from rare earth mining. We could continue this but the EPA has stopped it. Strike one.”

And here you can’t reason logically from your own starting premise. You claim that the EPA is preventing it from being mined, yet it doesn’t occur to you why it is being prevented: the government is committed to a full-spectrum austerity program, whose purpose is to deny Americans access to resources. It doesn’t matter if the resource is lithium, rare-earths, coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear…everything will fall under an austerity program. So how is Musk’s electric car supposed to free everyone from that?

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  map
2 years ago

I ran across this looking for something else and saw it needed correction.

“…The original creators of the Tesla Roadster were then “Nikolai-Tesla’d” by Elon Musk….”

This is not true. I have found that there was no, zero, product hardware when Musk bought in. Only an idea. I repeat they have zero hardware. They had created nothing.

Musk bought in to these guys only because he did not want to run the business and let Eberhard do it which he says was a huge mistake.

map,”…Remember, the Chinese can set the marginal price of rare-earth minerals….”

map,”…And here you can’t reason logically from your own starting premise. You claim that the EPA is preventing it from being mined…”

This was map’s comment on Thorium, which made uneconomical the mining of rare earth minerals in the US. I commented on this because map said that WE HAD to have them from China but…if you have any knowledge at all, we don’t need them, at all. map is blathering about things that do not matter and are taken out of context because he doesn’t understand even the basics. So he is complaining about that which he doesn’t even have a clue.

It’s like some fool complaining about how their umbrella doesn’t open properly to keep rain off of him in the desert.

map knows nothing about electric motors and he knows not a damn thing about electricity. He said,”…Electricity is all about running a turbine…”. Third graders know better.

He has NO CLUE. None at all. Most everything map says and his constant worship of that CIA gym girls Mathis are a huge, garbled pile of nonsense. He has no idea and most all the time gets every single “fact”, there is no facts in what he says, wrong.

Another Dave
Another Dave
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

None of us know what the real deal on Musk is so I won’t comment on that, but retaining a suitable degree of suspicion about him is definitely in order, primarily because he wants to put a computer chip in everyone’s brain.
That is a big no no if you value true human freedom and personal sovereignty.
As far as electric vehicles, you sound like a salesman, and not a very well informed one.
There is nowhere near enough recoverable lithium on this earth to scale up electric vehicles to replace automobiles. That is not even a controversial position. There is simply not enough lithium.
I won’t even get into the reality of how much massive, industrial scale mining would have to be done to recover what lithium there is. The whole process is incredibly toxic, and considering electric vehicles are promoted as a “green” technology, the whole “green” scam falls apart before it even begins to fly.
Beyond all that, electric vehicles, as currently built, have significantly reduced driving range in relation to gas fueled vehicles, and the recharging takes ridiculous amounts of time, as opposed to just pulling into a service station to fuel up with gasoline, which takes all of 5 minutes.
You will not simply place recharging stations where we now have gas stations, as you would have hundreds of vehicles piling up waiting to recharge for multiple hours before being usable for any real distance.
We also have the reality that EV’s can be remotely controlled or shut off by a third party, which is one of the reasons globalists love them. It’s an authoritarian dream come true.
The whole electric vehicle fantasy is absurd, at least with the technology we have now. If radical advances in battery design and rare earth mineral recoverability are put on the table, then a discussion can begin, but again, much of this is a globalist dream of creating fleets of remote controlled, and incredibly inconvenient, EV’s that hobble and corral our movement, not free us as automobiles have.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Another Dave
2 years ago

“…As far as electric vehicles, you sound like a salesman…”

I sure am. For the somple reason that I think having the US transportation system built on imported oil is a mational security issue. I also have said, repeatedly, that being able to charge you car with electricity from any electrical source is a move towards inde-enfence for individuals. Prove me whrong. Do you have some super man ability to drill your own opil ewells and refine crude poil in your baxck yard? If so tell us I woill fhandily change my positin.

“…and not a very well informed one…”

and you are… the next quote shows different.
“…There is nowhere near enough recoverable lithium on this earth to scale up electric vehicles to replace automobiles. That is not even a controversial position. There is simply not enough lithium…”

You can get lithoum from seawater. There is NO SHORTAGE of lithoum. All the lithoum is readily avable and afterit is mioned and put in batteries it can all be recycled just like stell is recycled from cars.

And besiodes that there’s all sorts of different ways to stroe electricity besides lithoum. p;ve covered this extensivly here many times.

“…much of this is a globalist dream of creating fleets of remote controlled, and incredibly inconvenient, EV’s that hobble and corral our movement, not free us as automobiles have….”

I have already covered the fact that remote control is already in gasoline driven cars. So what difference does it make if remote control is by gas or electric? None at all. You are attributing things to electric cars that have nothing to do with electric cars at all. Are you now calling for banning all cars with any sort of remote control,,,that’s all of them.

You say they are “incredibly inconvenient”. Is plugging in your car at your house every day or every few days “incredibly inconvenient”? No it’s not.

I’ve also never, ever, ever said I’m against IC cars. People who have long commutes or travel a lot should stick with them but they are the minority of people who drive cars. Most can charge their cars in the evenings when they get home.

People who go on and on about electric cars being some sort of evil are deranged lunatics. Their facts are all fucked up and they are ill informed and ignorant.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

“I think having the US transportation system built on imported oil is a mational security issue.”

So, you’d rather have it built on imported lithium, rare earth metals and still be dependent on foreign oil?

Another Dave
Another Dave
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

Your long, misspelled screed looks goofy and undermines your position.
I never said EV’s were evil. I said they won’t work the way industry shills claim they will with pie in the sky projections.
Your response was a straight industry sales pitch, not facts based on how we mine lithium now, process it, or produce EV vehicles. You completely glossed over the recharging issues, which are massively inconvenient and not scalable to replace IC vehicles. Not even close.
There is more than enough recoverable oil and natural gas in the U.S. and Canada to fuel our needs for a very, very long time. We don’t have to get our oil from Arabs. The only reason we do so is to satisfy the greed of a handful of billionaires. A sane leader could pull the plug on that at any time.
Again, a radical leap forward in mining, processing and battery power might change the equation, but we aren’t there yet, or anywhere close based on current models.

map
map
Reply to  Another Dave
2 years ago

This is something SamJ does not understand. An EV has a lot more overhead in time and cost. It’s a form of transportation that you have to accommodate, instead of the transportation accommodating you.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Another Dave
2 years ago

The gas-lighting is so thick we will start to choke on it any minute.

map and Dave’s basic position if you average it out is, we have plenty of oil, electric cars won’t do “exactly” what IC cars will, right now.

To prove this they throw up all kinds of scares, no lithium(proven wrong and in the future likely not needed at all), no rare earths(proven wrong and not even needed), Can’t charge(somehow ignoring the simple fact that people have power at their houses and the vast majority can top up at night).

These are all irrelevant to the utility of electric cars. Not important. Because people who want electric cars are not buying them to drive over 300 miles a day constantly. So all these objections are fictitious nonsense with no bearing on the utility of an electric cars worth at all.

Look at the nonsense dave throws up,”…I never said EV’s were evil. I said they won’t work the way industry shills claim they will with pie in the sky projections….”

Notice he doesn’t at all say what this supposed “projections” are. I say if a car has miles per charge of 250 miles and you drive less, then it’s good for the person that buys it. He says,”…recharging issues, which are massively inconvenient and not scalable to replace IC vehicles. Not even close…”

Let’s look at real numbers for the VAST MAJORITY of Americans.
https://www.bts.gov/statistical-products/surveys/national-household-travel-survey-daily-travel-quick-facts
THE AVERAGE DRIVER

  • Spends 55 minutes a day behind the wheel
  • Drives 29 miles a day

MEN VS. WOMEN

  • Women drive less (21 to 38 miles per day)
  • Men drive longer (67 to 44 minutes per day)

This level of driving is way. way, way below the capacity of most popular electric cars sold even today. There is no “range gap”. As for travel, people know that they will have to make more time to charge. I suspect that as the number of electric cars go up hotels will start adding chargers so that there’s no loss of time at all. Electric cars win this. No going to the gas station. They can charge at home and on infrequent trips they’re going to need to wait but getting the kids out the car is not necessarily a bad thing. I’ve also speculated that eventually someone will make a tow behind diesel generator so that range is no more a problem than it is with a gas car. They could be rented for the trip. Rent-all places would be an excellent place to do this. So in fact, all you electric car haters have…nothing. Not a damn thing. Just gas-lighting and bullshit.

And the point is what? Either the car goes the miles they need or not. What he wants is immaterial to people who want to drive the car around town and to work every day. Plugging it in at night and getting a way less cost of ownership is hardly a world shattering burden. I tell you what I have personally seen in the 70.s, myself personally, where you could not get gas at any price. If that happens again, and it could then tell me how inconvenient it is to conjure up gasoline that doesn’t exist. It’s WAY less likely that all electricity will disappear. And if you’re paranoid about it you can buy solar panels, storage batteries and make your own. You don’t need anyone else.

These people buying electric cars want independence from the oil Oligarchy, some want cheaper overall ownership for transportation, and the rest are buying for environmental reasons. Gas is now $5.70 a gallon in California and no end in sight to price increase.

Notice as I answer these, they wait, then go to a new thread and bring up the same damn objections. Let’s go over the ones I’m covered. Lithium is not in short supply. So to try a new tactic dave says,”…facts based on how we mine lithium now, process it, or produce EV vehicles…”

You see that sneaky assed Jew lying shit. So if we can’t produce lithium RIGHT NOW EXACTLY THE WAY WE DO IT RIGHT NOW, then it doesn’t exist.

Dave proving my points for me,
“…There is more than enough recoverable oil and natural gas in the U.S. and Canada to fuel our needs for a very, very long time. We don’t have to get our oil from Arabs. The only reason we do so is to satisfy the greed of a handful of billionaires. A sane leader could pull the plug on that at any time….”

Yep. I don’t deny we have plenty of oil right now and that sane leaders could get it but…we don’t have sane leaders. With electric cars it doesn’t matter if they are sane or not, you can still charge it. But good ole dave is determined to believe that somehow they will all come to their senses. I do not believe this. So I am for electric cars. THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR POINTS that I keep hammering home. Over and over. I don’t trust that we will be able to acquire oil, but I doubt that these psychopaths will blot out the Sun. And as long as the Sun shines you can produce power with solar.

Have you noticed these are the same arguments used by the lying Club of Rome, the lying environmentalist, all these other liars that if it does not exist “right now” it will never, ever exist? Can you see it? It’s gas-lighting. It’s crooked. It’s nothing but devious fraudulent lies, because we KNOW there’s enough lithium. We know that it’s also possible to make batteries from things other than lithium. That they do not have entire factories making them right now does not mean they can never exist. So their arguments are stupid and criminally evil.

I showed on this site how the energy in a flywheel can be used with present materials to get a flywheel battery that out does lithium. We also have advanced carbon compounds that even put the amount of energy of gasoline in IC engines to shame.The point being the physics show this can be built and eventually someone will see this and make a lot of money on this. So cost and material objections to batteries are out of there. That they do not exist right this second is no argument. Their arguments are like a guy looking at an empty field and saying “we can’t harvest wheat from there”, completely ignoring that you can plant wheat there and then harvest it.

As for rare earths. You don’t need them at all. Tesla has some smaller ones in their new engine. I suspect they are for either low end torque or to smooth ripple but in fact they are not necessary at all with inductive reluctance motors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reluctance_motor

And finally, if you don’t like electric cars, don’t buy one. There are millions of people who disagree and feel they meet their needs. Not yours. Theirs.

When the psychopaths turn off the gas flows, (they’ve already made a huge dent by stopping new drilling), you can sit in the gas pump lines and watch the electric cars drive by you suckers and snicker.

phelps
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
2 years ago

Also the infrastructure to transport the energy. One of the problems with have with hydrocarbons now is moving it. We don’t have enough pipelines, so we are moving it by rail and truck, which is much more dangerous and wasteful of the same hydrocarbons we are distributing.

The reality though, is that electricity is ONLY distributed through similar lines, and our capacity to move it is even worse. We don’t make our own very large industrial transformers, and the Chinese backup was three years before COVID. (We allegedly have the ability, but we haven’t actually made one in decades and when .gov started surveying, we didn’t even had the tooling to make the tooling for very large transformers.)

We are barely getting enough replacement xformers, much less expansion stock. 95% of the residential xformers in Palo Alto are already overcapacity, before we go to EVs. (Read that the other day and it shocked even me.) From what I’ve seen, line owners don’t even bother ordering an expansion xformer until the current ones are over 140% capacity. Part of it is economics, but I think it is mainly triage.

Our transmission system is already in crisis, and overloaded in many place. Trying to stuff EV charging onto that already overloaded grid is exactly like putting too many devices on one circuit in your house.

We are about to start popping fuses.

The replacement fuses come from Asia and Europe, and have six month to three year shipping times.

Last edited 2 years ago by phelps
map
map
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
2 years ago

AC,

Not mad at Sam at all. Happy to have him here.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
2 years ago

AC,”…If they shut down gas and oil, is there enough nuke and coal to replace what we burn in gas and diesel, and do it less effectively, given losses?…”

God in heaven, help me. The wild stuff all of you are throwing up there because you don’t like people to “have a choice” to have electric cars. Will you listen to yourselves. I say “I” like electric cars and believe that it will provide independence to people and ALL of you are using arguments as “if” I said,”WE WILL NOW MANDATE ELECTRIC CARS FOR EVERYONE”.

And using the shut down of gas and oil to be the problem with electric cars…WHAT??? That’s the exact point I’m making. If you have a way to get electricity or are anywhere near a charging station, you won’t need gas. As for the electricity. Once again does it not occur to anyone that we could make more power plants, that (as we have seen just today with a far more efficient heat engine) that there might be some way to make this work. It’s not like BOOM tomorrow everyone has electric cars. It will decades to change over. And it’s not even remotely the fault of electric cars that the government is crushing energy. No matter if you have gas or electricity the case is the same “except” with electric cars if you can find a way to cobble together some sort of solar array you can charge it yourself.

And it’s as if with this one thing, electric cars, nothing will ever change. There will no advancement, cobalt, lithium, why for electric cars, and just electric cars, they will never make one single advance so…let’s dump on them. So capitalism works wonders everywhere, except electric cars, or so you tell me. I say the price of batteries will come down. I can see right now tech that is a path to doing this with no radical make believe tech needed. Just engineering. Lower prices a lot and we have, and will see big decreases in price in solar cells, batteries and the electronics used to control them. So as cars are being built all these things will work together synergetically.

AC”…I’ve had the impression even the grid is just not able to handle the switch, and will not be for some time….”

It depends. If the grid stays exactly as it is forever then no it won’t handle it. If there’s no extra solar added, no. If people charge at night then the grid will have no problems. If not they will have to upgrade it. A high voltage power line carries about 0,6 Gigawatt. Around 804,289 HP so it’s not like they can’t add some lines and increase capacity. They can also change to HV DC lines. Here’s a daily graph of power usage during the day. It varies a lot.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=42915

My favorite, they can put solar cells on house roofs and make power locally. I’ve read somewhere that the p[rice of adding solar is not much more or less than replacing a roof with a high quality roof. Look at the price of standing seam metal roofs and slate, then compare to solar panels and add in all the power you will make over the roofs’ lifetime.

My whole point, to exhaustion, has been consistently that electric cars provide for more choices and provide for better National security by taking away the bottleneck of oil and gas to move about. Now you people are putting up a mighty good smokescreen but not one of you have been even remotely, to prove this wrong. It makes such simple common sense that you’ve had to throw all sorts of avenues of attack, yet none of you have been able to really prove this wrong. You also can not prove wrong that it is possible for people to make electricity independently and then charge their cars with it.

“AC,”…And please, be super polite, even if people are pissing you off. A lot of people take stuff personal on this thing, and I hate seeing friends fighting with each other…”

None of the major media people are my friend. None of these lying institutions taken over by psychopaths are my friend.

phelps,”…we didn’t even had the tooling to make the tooling for very large transformers…”

Did you know, in a pinch, that you can take small transformers and stick them together serially and in parallel and make higher voltage transformers. Not saying this is ideal but it can be done. And it’s hardly the fault of electric cars that the country is being run down by the Jews. My point, again, is people should look towards getting solar so they don’t have to worry about this. SO there is a solution. You might not like it, but it’s there. Solar is already cheaper per kilowatt hour I believe but I expect that batteries would change that. All the other stuff you said about overloading is purely a function of the financial types looting the country. They need to be stopped but that has nothing to do with whether an electric car is a bad thing or not. The best avenue to stop this looting, which a LOT of people are choosing, is to make your own power so they can’t do this. To hell with the power company and big oil too.

map(of the CIA gym girls fame),”…Then there is the usual mantra about how “real soon now”…”

We have everything right now. Electric cars. Solar roofs and the batteries to back them up and over time they are cheaper than the alternatives right now. Right this minute.

map(of the CIA gym girls fame),”…What if you live in a tenth-floor apartment?…”

You can get a charging station built in . Have you given even the slightest thought to the idea that apartments could attract renters by having assigned parking with charging station??? You could even ride in one of Musk self-driving cars. Call it up and have it take you whatever you want and not own a car at all. A guy with an electric car in suburbs could charge there and taxi people around during the day.

map(of the CIA gym girls fame),”…which you can then spend 5-$10,000 modifying with either a 220V commercial line…”

There’s no such thing. 220V lines are just 220V lines. Sigh you have no idea. No clue.

I’m done with talking to you people about electric cars. It’s too much work and it’s like wrestling with greasy pigs. I “attempt” to show you there are ways around our present system which is a huge rip-off, but you just will not have it. You bring up all sorts of problems that are more to do with the government and the crooked, rotten people running our country but have NOTHING to do with the actual technology of electric cars.

It appears some have it on a near religious faith that electric cars or solar are sign of devil and no set of facts will sway you. You will always bring up new objections and repeat the same ones over and over. Maybe all the people that hate electric cars should all get together and start an Oil cult. The Cult of the Oil and Gas or some such.

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

You can get a charging station built in . Have you given even the slightest thought to the idea that apartments could attract renters by having assigned parking with charging station??? You could even ride in one of Musk self-driving cars. Call it up and have it take you whatever you want and not own a car at all. A guy with an electric car in suburbs could charge there and taxi people around during the day.”

Uh…you don’t get “assigned” parking with an apartment. You pay extra for parking. Parking can cost almost as much as your rent.

Imagine you’re a kid who just graduated from college. You’re starting your first job and, like the rest of the planet, you’re not making a lot of money. Your first apartment in an urban area will probably be a studio in a large block apartment, where most of the time you will be forced to park on the street.

With an IC vehicle, all this kid has to do is pay roughly $5,000 in the used car market to get himself an entry-level vehicle. He can park it wherever he goes and he can pretty much forget about it until he needs it.

With an EV, he faces a dilemma. How is he going to charge his car? These old block apartments don’t have dedicated parking and a charger. What if he can’t park anywhere near his home? Explain to me how he solves this problem? He has to make special planning to make sure his EV is charged, planning you don’t need for an IC vehicle.

This is the point I am trying to make. On the margin, solar power and EV vehicles do not provide enough energy to run anything significant. When they stop working you have to have fossil fuel backup.

I am not against anyone buying electric cars. What I see is this quasi-religious movement that will eventually ban gas cars and then you will see exactly what you have lost in the process.

Remember, Jews are the ones pushing electric cars.

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

You can get a charging station built in . Have you given even the slightest thought to the idea that apartments could attract renters by having assigned parking with charging station??? You could even ride in one of Musk self-driving cars. Call it up and have it take you whatever you want and not own a car at all. A guy with an electric car in suburbs could charge there and taxi people around during the day.”

ahahahahahahahah. Just magically call up someone else’s electric car.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  map
2 years ago

“You will own nothing and you will be happy”

That sounds familiar.

phelps
Reply to  map
2 years ago

Imagine going to work in your nice clean car, and then when you are ready to go home, the whole car smells like weed and ass, someone took a dump in the passenger seat, and there’s jizz all over the backseat.

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

Yeah, the psychopaths who are turning off the gas flows conveniently left you with oh-so-efficient electric car as the sane response to their agendas. Has it ever occurred to you that both the fossil fuel austerity program and the electric car bs are part of the same psychopathy? What makes you think these same people won’t interfere with your charging cycle by creating rolling blackouts?

Then there is the usual mantra about how “real soon now” amazing new technologies are just on the horizon to solve current problems. You will have “flywheels” and “reluctance motors” and new chemicals and resources. Funny how nobody can wait until all this stuff is online before current assets are stranded and regulated into uselessness.

Sam J keeps writing that people will charge their cars “at home.” What “home” are you referring to? I suppose you are referring to a detached, single-family home with its own garage and dedicated electrical outlets. What if you live in a tenth-floor apartment? How are you going to charge your car? Are you going to run an extension cord out the window? What if you are parked several blocks away?

So, on top of the $40,000 your Tesla will cost you, you also have to buy a detached, single-family home for several hundred thousand dollars to have a dedicated 120V line and the space to park your Tesla, which you can then spend 5-$10,000 modifying with either a 220V commercial line or some kind of Tesla supercharger. On top of that, the same idiots mandating this nonsense are banning IC vehicles and planning rolling blackouts to save the environment.

Do you now understand why I call the electric car an austerity program?

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

This level of driving is way. way, way below the capacity of most popular electric cars sold even today. There is no “range gap”. As for travel, people know that they will have to make more time to charge.”

That’s like saying “no one uses the capabilities of a Porsche 911, therefore, we can sell a Porsche 911 without those capabilities.”

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

You say they are “incredibly inconvenient”. Is plugging in your car at your house every day or every few days “incredibly inconvenient”? No it’s not.”

And if you don’t have a house? What if you live in an apartment? Where are you going to plug in your electric car?

“You can get lithoum from seawater. There is NO SHORTAGE of lithoum. All the lithoum is readily avable and afterit is mioned and put in batteries it can all be recycled just like stell is recycled from cars.”

Where are they getting Lithium from seawater? Look, I know aircraft carriers can use surplus power from their nuclear reactors to synthesize jet fuel from seawater. That is still more expensive than fuels refined conventionally. I don’t know of any such process for doing the same with lithium. Once again, you present another pie-in-the-sky energy proposal that the government does not want you to have even if it was possible.

“I have already covered the fact that remote control is already in gasoline driven cars. So what difference does it make if remote control is by gas or electric? None at all. You are attributing things to electric cars that have nothing to do with electric cars at all. Are you now calling for banning all cars with any sort of remote control,,,that’s all of them.”

An IC car has nowhere near the sensors that a Tesla does monitoring inside and outside the car to maintain functionality. IC cars have no remote access, self-driving capabilities, or anything that a Tesla has. The battery is minimally designed to run the simple electrical functions on a car. You could tax the system by simply installing an after-market alarm or a subwoofer. You can also go back about 10 years and buy an IC car with minimal hackable features. It just doesn’t compare.

Sam J.
Sam J.
2 years ago

You may wonder sometimes why I write these long detailed missives derailing all this bullshit they are throwing at us. Is there a reason? YES. I covered this in many post but here’s one where I said,

“…You might ask why I go on and on about this? I what you to “see it”. I want you to see what I see. I notice that if I very specifically point out this kind of Jew tactics others soon begin to see them too. They only have a handful of tricks and once you notice them it becomes apparent they are nothing but one big Jew gas-lighting pack of liars, and it becomes easier and easier to see how they do it if it’s pointed out…”

Also,

“…The Miles Mathis committee did a hit job on Musk filled with lies and bullshit, which loath as I am to read his stuff I did to counter his spook lies. That the MMC was trying to trash him is favorable that he is not cabal and is not controlled by them. That Biden and his corrupt agencies are now trying to shut him down only shows him even more in a favorable light.
I did write a bit of analyzing all the stuff the MMC covered and commented on it here.(Of course map is the one linking this as he is always linking some lying bullshit.) I read back over some of these links and everything map says is one big Jew gas-light. He uses, a lot, the Jew “Pronouncement” technique where the Jews just “pronounce” that this is this and that is that and continue to do so over and over with no supporting evidence or of the shakiest kind. When you show they are liars on one aspect of the “pronouncement” they just shift to another “pronouncement” while ignoring the wheelbarrow full of lies they just dumped on you before….”

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-02-16-2022/#comment-385852

The above is also why I’m sometimes so outright rude to map. He’s filling us up with lies and bullshit on purpose. You don’t owe dishonest people courtesy.

All this stuff is a deliberate tactic. I see it all over. The Jews constantly use this. I think tons of people do this now because we have been so saturated with Jew propaganda that people think it’s normal to constantly gas-light the truth now. It’s just the way things are done. And I hate it. I hate all these lies.

map
map
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

Sam J,

Look, I don’t mind that you defend Elon Musk or even if you are irate with me. I do mind that you do not address any of my objections.

Furthermore, why can’t you see the obvious?

1) Peak oil is a Jew ideology.
2) Climate change is a Jew hoax.
3) With the above, the Jews impose austerity on the goyim, because the less the goyim have the more the Jew will have. Therefore,
4) The Jews don’t want the goyim using oil, just like,
5) The Jews don’t want the goyim eating meat, just like,
6) The Jews don’t want the goyim moving around a lot.
7) Musk’s electric car is, therefore, the perfect culmination of a Jewish austerity program imposed on the goyim: overpriced, limited transportation that basically makes normal transportation impossible.
8) And this entire Jewish austerity program made Musk the richest man in the world.

What conclusion do you draw from this? Musk is either a jew, a crypto-jew, or a shabbos goy.

All the attacks on Musk may be nothing more than trying to give him street cred or some internal conflict between different groups of Jews.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  map
2 years ago

“…I do mind that you do not address any of my objections…”

That’s because you are full of shit. You mix up fact, fiction and then make statements that have no backing at all. Many of the statements you make are out right lies or are ignorant things you “think” are true but are not. You do not in any way know what you are talking about, or you are purposely lying to muddy the issue. Nothing you say can be taken as true because you mix all these together in such a jumbled fashion, truth, lies, ignorance.

In fact you are a good running example of Jew tactics to confuse people.

Jaded Jurist
Jaded Jurist
2 years ago

I’ve started to think that a major purpose of the small Ukraine conflict is to see how much the government and media can lie to people using modern internet and other information-sharing methods. It’s like they said to themselves “Covid was a success, now let’s see how much we can control thr narrative when it comes to a much more real-life type threat.”

I’m seeing Antichrist fingerprints all over this.

UFOs next?

Another Dave
Another Dave
Reply to  Jaded Jurist
2 years ago

UFO’s are definitely next. You can bet on that.

Ghost Who Walks
Ghost Who Walks
Reply to  Jaded Jurist
2 years ago

Remember where it all started: the Holocaust lie.

Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
2 years ago

I’ve really got to get my stance on Right to Repair and intellectual property abuse hammered out so I can film the rant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSZE2rs54CM

Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
2 years ago

Since discovering the occult nature of government in 2007 when I viewed the Cremation of Care ceremony courtesy Alex Jones, I’ve discovered a lot of things, all of which were already known to those willing to face the truth. Truths like the corrupt foundations of the Roman church and Constantine’s false conversion for the sake of Romanizing a jewish “cult” which was rapidly overtaking his own sun cult among non-jews, a sun cult which itself was an amalgamation of sun and fertility worship from across the ancient world. Christmas, Easter, Sunday worship, the office of “pope”(high priest), etc are all heresies. Roman Catholicism is an institution of men, a cultural institution, not a faith of God, and I include the Orthdox in that statement since they tend to ally themselves with Rome despite the schism where the leadership of both pretended that they had the power over entry into Heaven. The protestant “denominations” that broke away over the centuries have basically succumbed to all the same heresies.

Now here’s the part where I surprise you – the older I get the less it seems to matter. When I was younger I could rant about it for hours, ruin any family gathering etc. These days it’s just not worth the trouble, and while I still believe myself correct in these statements, I do not believe that they matter, not when Jesus himself used the phrase “lesser sin” to Pilot and Paul stated plainly that he preached the same message on the last day of the week as on the first day of the week.

So, no I will NOT be wishing you a Happy Easter, but I will gladly tell you that Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashiach (same name & title in different languages) is the King of Kings, that he was crucified to atone for the sins of the world, that he came back from the grave in the flesh, ascended into Heaven, and is coming again with all the armies of Heaven to reclaim creation once and for all. And I will say that I hope you can declare the same with a joyous heart and that you look forward to this return as much as I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLA5HUC10KU

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Lowell Houser
2 years ago

Lowell to the rest of us:

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Phelps
2 years ago

Re the groomer professor tweet — four of the names there obviously echo, and the others might be shape shifters.

Donnie
Donnie
Reply to  Phelps
2 years ago

I score it five confirmed, two likely possibles and one maybe. Kosher, Shalit, Luxenburg and Finkelhor are slam dunks. Walenciak is likely a Slavic surname but the first name (((Abby))) is the tipoff. The two likelies are based on first names and physiognomy: (((Esther))) Stafford (look at that mug) and (((Debbie))) Pattlio. Kristany Kay’s names are both ambivalent and she’s too young to have much character or lack thereof in her face, but the surname chimes with the old song and dance man (((Danny Kay))). Could be a clean sweep.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

Again CTH/Sundance demonstrates his lack of financial sophistication,m by promoting inflammatory but 100% inaccurate info on his site. He promotes a tweet claiming TWT BoD excluding Dorsey) owned only seventy seven (77) shares of its stoch. Anyone can and should immediately look up TWTR’s latest disclosure statement using EDGAR, where you will find that Those members of TWTW own more than 900,000 shares. Many have pointed this out in the thread for that CTH article. Nevertheless, Sundance does not update the post Orin anyway correct his factual error. It makes me skeptical of everything he writes.

Link to SEC filing of Annual Proxy Statement dated 4/12/2022 – https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001418091/411abb63-f498-4dfb-91ae-09373fe6e190.pdf#page82

To be clear, I want Musk to succeed in his takeover of TWTR and restoration of free speech in that de facto town square. Having people on our side publishing mis/dis/mal/information does not help our cause.

map
map
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

Most of the board members have the following asterisk after their name:

Represents beneficial ownership of less than one percent (1%) of the outstanding shares of our common stock. 

and

All executive officers and directors as a group (14 persons) (16) 20,521,708 2. 7%

All on page 77 of the proxy statement.

Bottom line is, board does not have much skin in the game.

map
map
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

I think he confused the number of shares with the page number in the proxy statement.

AnonMom
AnonMom
2 years ago

We don’t have cable, we use an old analog TV for watching VHS tapes and DVDs. Last night we popped out the DVD we’d been watching and realized there was a voice coming from the TV…it was faint but unmistakable. Even with the volume turned up all the way we still couldn’t make out what the voice was saying, although we could tell it was female and speaking in a monotone that droned on and on. The signal seemed like a wave…low/high/low/high. After about an hour, even though ‘she’ was still talking, we turned off the set and went to bed. Any ideas of what this was? What kinds of signals can an analog TV pick up?

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  AnonMom
2 years ago

Likely picking up some local TV station.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
2 years ago

“…I assume there is something that jiggles the magnets in the speakers north/south (the directions of my two main observation posts), because ti si being shot that way but not east/west…”

Taking a wild guess, beat frequencies. If you take two frequencies and combine them, you get the difference in them plus and minus. AM and FM radio works something like this. The link is acoustics but electromagnetic waves work the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(acoustics)

HA you can tell how much TV I watch. I didn’t even know they shut down all the analog TV stations.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

> If they need a real false flag, they may have to produce it, to prevent a ballsy American from ruining it by killing their shooter. A complete production is the only way they can make sure some armed New Yorker doesn’t pull out a gun and kill their shooter, and thus actually show why the Supreme Court should rule for gun rights.

This is only partially true. I think they try every now and then to kill actual people in these shootings just to see if times have changed, but there’s been plenty of cases where all the markings of a false flag have been in place leading up to an event and the shooter still gets dropped by the first real human on the scene with a gun. I think they know real humans don’t just lie down and die to a shooter without resistance, and that makes it not worth the risk to the operation.

I’m betting they don’t even bother with real violence in real locations when they need a manufactured event. It’s all a sound stage with 100% actors like certain elementary schools that will not be named.

Debra Shaffer
Debra Shaffer
2 years ago

https://twitter.com/BaltimoreMrs/status/1515063528301817857?s=19
Lotta freaks in the comments. Leftards aren’t playing at crazy, it’s for real.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

Cabal Ruminations

As always, much talk about what Cabal is up to, but let’s not forget that the majority of society continue to play their enablers. Every dysfunctional relationship takes two to tango, and this machine would have ground to a halt if it weren’t for so many people going along with it.

On a micro level, I learned this at places of work with bad bosses who were very good at pretending to be normal, but just kept making everything more insane. Many employees did a lot of whining behind closed doors, but very, very few pushed back, so nothing changed. If a sizable minority had done so, those bosses would have had to behave themselves more or even been forced out of their positions. Btw, one of those bosses did volunteer work for his church, so don’t just think that makes someone okay. That was reputation management.

AC said he was unsure how to estimate the percentage of Cabal employees in society. I don’t have a definite answer either, but just want to remind people that in certain situations it can be everyone except you, as AC wrote about some of his experiences in high school. See also the lone rookie who suddenly finds himself a participant in a criminal conspiracy where everybody in his professional team is already in on it, e.g., Ethan Hawke in Training Day or Tom Cruise in The Firm.

The total percentage might be surprisingly high, but you only really need to control the rule makers. Who set up the rules that made it so that doctors are overworked and stressed out and know very little about nutrition and are too mentally inflexible to ever refer a patient to a TCM professional? Or, to go back to high school, how disproportionate is the influence on teens’ minds of the few dozen people at textbook publishing giants who have the final word on what goes into their textbooks and what is taboo?

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

“…The total percentage might be surprisingly high, but you only really need to control the rule makers…”

An extremely important point. They are the minority but they have placed themselves at choke points in the country and screwed everything up.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

“…let’s not forget that the majority of society continue to play their enablers….”

I’m not buying this attempt to blame regular people for the behavior of the Jews. It’s an attempt to shift blame to those who are not the problem. It’s crooked. The people to blame are those that are doing wrong.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

I do blame regular people for barking at others who dared to go maskless, I do blame my former co-workers, especially those with lots of job security, for never speaking truth to power, I do blame those cops (far from all) who knowingly follow criminal orders rather than ever risk their pensions, etc. They are the willing, often even enthusiastic, minions of the Powers That Be.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

I’m seeing this repeated that it’s “societies” fault, forget the Jews. I say that this is a concerted effort to shift blame and blunt the fact that the Jews have moved to control positions at the top. There’s no way for average people to find the truth when it is covered in lies in all the major media.

This meme is a con job.

As for people telling others to wear mask. In all the major media, they told people that not wearing mask spread the disease. How are average people able to know that the truth is different? They can’t.

Farcesensitive
2 years ago

A look into the minds of our enemies (Those who call evil good, and call good evil)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMogDlcJVi8

Farcesensitive
2 years ago

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Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
2 years ago

The Salty CrackerKIMDOTCOM SAYS HUNTER SPIED ON THE BIG GUY – DOCUMENTS ON THE LAPTOPSC: “Don’t tell me that you are going to drop information. DROP INFORMATION.” Not all at once, drip drip, we completely understand because there’s too much to absorb all at once, and not the kiddie diddling stuff yet, because that’s the coup de grass, but there has to be more memable criminal corruption that can be dripped out for the meme makers to keep the story alive.

He echoes a warning that Mark Taylor gave to the Q team, which was to not let things get TOO BAD, because once the actual ground level patriots have really had enough then the shooting of government employees starts and that can’t be turned off.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/RgPvY7BpmVbO/

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Farcesensitive
Reply to  Lowell Houser
2 years ago

A waring Q seems to have ignored.

Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
Reply to  Farcesensitive
2 years ago

Shooting ain’t started yet, my friend.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Lowell Houser
2 years ago

No, it hasn’t.
But I think we are past the point where it can be controlled when it does.

Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
2 years ago

UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter on the current Russian situation. Turns out he has a LOT of things worth hearing about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inAnZZvY1Bc

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Lowell Houser
2 years ago

“…UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter…”

I’m fairly sure he was blackmailed for having sex with underage girls. Not children but underage.

Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

He talks about being immediately penciled in for FBI harassment as soon as refused to lie about Iraq, as in the night of his resignation they announced the investigation. He’s still a free man.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Lowell Houser
2 years ago

Good point. All the talk about him being a molester could have been BS.

Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
2 years ago

A Rothchild declared Vladimir Putin to be a traitor to globalism, because was once part of the YGL group. I’d say that it’s entirely possible that Rothchild was telling the truth:

Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
2 years ago

Fun stuff, just discovered that Elon unveiled the new project at Tesla producing a humanoid robot. In other words, Elon just let everyone know that the US military has infiltrator drones that can deliver a suicide bomb anywhere they want. All it has to do is be programmed to use a swipe card to get through security and they could even sneak something into a building. With the current realistic rubber face masking, who would question it?

Elon Musk REVEALS Tesla Bot (full presentation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUP6Z5voiS8

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Lowell Houser
2 years ago

Great point here. This Elon guy is continuously proven to be the ultimate example of the “bad tree cannot produce good fruit” concept, and yet desperate right-wing simps will still break their spines bending over to excuse all the evil shit he does. Brain chips, humanoid robots, destroying the gas car, perpetuating the “space is real and we go there” myth, electric batteries that are 10x worse for the environment than a million gas cars, etc.

Stop being so desperate, guys. There’s real people that you can team up with that aren’t gay billionaires.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

“…This Elon guy is continuously proven to be the ultimate example of the “bad tree cannot produce good fruit” concept, and yet desperate right-wing simps will still break their spines bending over to excuse all the evil shit he does….”

You may be right but all of you constantly berating what he HAS done are nothing but Hasbara type attackers. The dishonesty is what bothers me. The lies, the assumption of cult…hey haven’t we have seen this before? It’s pure Jew behavior. One of the reasons I talk about this is Jews have a certain way of trying to torpedo anything good and all you guys totally fit the pattern.

It could very well be that these could be used to round up Americans but…

Here’s another scenario for you Jews. All the Jews could be chased down by these robots, loaded on ships and deported to IsraHell. Your money would not help you if people were determined to get rid of you. Your blackmail would not help you because every single person being blackmailed would LOVE to get rid of you.

It’s makes me wonder with all the, Jew tactic, attacks on Musk if the Jews do not really fear him? They fear his possibility of breaking the “story” control they have built. One large entity telling the truth could totally upend your control.

Every thing he is doing and has done has a double edge to it. It could be good, it could be bad.

Farcesensitive
2 years ago

The party of far-left candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon gave no voting instructions for the French presidential runoff after its internal consultations showed most people would abstain or vote blank on April 24, adding to the uncertainty over the outcome.
President Emmanuel Macron and his far-right challenger Marine Le Pen are looking to attract voters who chose Melenchon, after he came third in the first round on April 10 with about 22% of the vote.
With the electorate fragmented and undecided, the election will likely be won by the candidate who can reach beyond his or her camp to convince voters that the other option would be far worse.
After the first round, Melenchon called on his supporters not to vote Le Pen, but he stopped short of advocating Macron and said his party would hold a public consultation to help guide the millions who backed him.
According to results published on Sunday, about 215,000 party sympathizers who participated in that, more than 66% said they would abstain, leave their ballot paper blank or spoil it. Just over 33% said they would vote for Macron. The option of voting for Le Pen was not given to respondents.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/french-far-left-consultations-show-102201867.html