A commenter writes:
Your writing on narcissism is spot on. I unfortunately have 20 years of direct experience with my narc ex-husband and extended family, kind of like a coven of narcs. As far as political alignment approximately half identified as liberals, and half identified as conservatives. The liberal narcs were identifiable as saying the right, politically correct stuff and expecting everyone to serve them. The conservative narcs demanded to be served and actively sought to destroy their slaves. The liberal ones were chilling with their hypocrisy, but the conservative ones were deadly. I suggest you free your mind and revisit the notion that narcs come in all flavors.
I have been unclear in describing my exact perceptions of this, though if you read around the edges you could make out my understanding of it.
She writes that the conservative Narcs are deadly. She is right.
Notice that I have said repeatedly that a hallmark of the K-shift will be many liberals turning right, and then going full on murderous to prove their bonafides and gain leadership positions. They are still r-strategists psychologically, and narcissism is still the ultimate r-strategy, but the environment will have changed by becoming more K.
Suddenly the best way to avoid danger, acquire free resources, and have access to mates is to become a leader of the K-movement. And to do that, they will take the most extreme position of killing all of K’s enemies, destroying everything on the left, and even launching wars against our enemies (with other people fighting them).
So she is right about narcissist being able to be conservative. But it doesn’t change the underlying fact that r/K created politics in our species, liberalism would not exist were it not for the r-selected reproductive strategy, conservatism formed because of the K-strategy, and most r-strategists will go left, while the overwhelming majority of K’s will go right.
In my view, r and K are programs running in brains which create political groups out of the masses. The narcissists are running a program, that from a programming perspective is at the extreme end of r. It doesn’t just want free resources and no resistance – it expects it. In fact, it enters epic levels of freak outs when it fails to get total capitulation to every one of its whims.
Now the catch. There are circumstances where narcissists will identify as right-wing because it reduces resistance, assuages amygdala, and/or facilitates free resources. You won’t find them fighting selflessly for conservatism, and enduring hardships at work, or hiding their ideology because if it became public there would be a cost. They aren’t conservative for principle and willing to endure hardship for it. There are no K-instincts driving them. If there was a cost to being conservative, rather than hide their conservatism they would simply go liberal, and see the logic of social justice and progress. They are conservative because it assuages some angst, by feeding ego and facilitating free resources.
A simple glance at the Cucks of the Establishment GOP, who proclaim they’re conservative while stabbing grassroots conservatives in the back should show you a plethora of “conservative” narcissists.
A narcissist who can seamlessly go behind the enemy’s K-selected lines is like a spy – and dangerous for the same reasons. Normal narcissists who espouse left-wing ideology are operating within the parameters of their instinctual r-psychology. They are constrained by r-instincts, which gives them some principle of sorts to adhere to. The narcissists who break ranks, and jump to conservatism have absolutely no urges tethering them anywhere. Even their r-selected urges and their desire for the r-selected environment are completely disposable in their search for amygdala-relief. There is nothing constraining them, oftimes because their drive to simultaneously elevate themselves and drive everyone else into the ground is so uncontrollable. The only thing worse than an Elizabeth Warren is an Elizabeth Warren who would seamlessly and shamelessly switch parties, and espouse whatever would get her conservative votes.
Narcissists are dangerous to begin with because they are not operating with reason or logic as a motive. Reason is moderation, and open to new information. Narcissists are operating solely with a nuclear-powered amygdala engine which instantly accelerates them to light speed in the direction of whatever triggers their neuroses. Morals, reason, and logic are totally powerless to perform any braking function. With the narcissists who enter the right-wing, they show that even instinct, shame, and pretense is not tethering them either.
As a result, with them any horror is possible. And they are the leftists today who will seamlessly head politically rightward, and then seek leadership of our movement when the Apocalypse hits.
Then they will be all ours, God help us.
Tell everyone about r/K Theory, because the trials have yet to present themselves
Whenever I see some white Democrat being shouted down by minorities, I imagine a ticking time bomb. I think a lot of these withe Democrats are going to flip suddenly. We already see a lot of those guys at Charlottsville were leftists at one time or other.
But the narcissists who were successful pandering to minorities are likely to be the ones who turn most viciously against them.
So, what’s the connection between narcissism and government employment (easy, secure, overly-paid, etc.) Is there a higher percentage of narcissists in the private or government sector?
And where does the military fit in this? They’re government employees with cradle-to-grave health care, pensions, and more. I’d think that the incredible benes and salaries of the government class, including the military (mostly officers), have skewed the natural K-selection of the military toward an r-mentality.
Rightwingism isn’t narcissism exclusive. What is monarchy and nobility if not institutionalized narcissism? And the bigger the right wing media movement gets with its alternative plattforms gathering momentum, the more you can see how pathological people latch on to it. I personaly see not much different between the Headlines and Comments on Breitbart compared with leftwing outlets. It taps into the same reflexes of victimization of the own group, the resulting moral justification of their own moral point of few, and the elimination of explanation and ability for rationalization of their own narritive. Every time movements get big enough the true believers slowly fade away and the size of the herd gives living space to bottom feeders, camp followers and narcissistic manipulators who can carve out a place for themselfs.
The catch is that right wing groups tend to be highly competative and while leftis work often together for a common goal or simply to harm the common enemy, right wingers will fight each other over petty differences cause their nature demands it and they can’t help it. And it often works better to eat the smaller competators first to gain power to take on the enemy camp. Such a process is resource intensive but also highly eugenic.
So, Jason Kessler? It was funny seeing him run away when challenged. Real leaders lead charges, they don’t order other better men to go where they will not. 2016 was the test, everyone not on board with Trump, won’t be, and should never be in leadership positions. That “conservative” narcissists would destroy their slaves is telling though, it explains Globalism perfectly. Beware those types getting control of alt-right, nationalist or conservative movements and organizations. They will put you in unwinnable, and possibly very fatal situations.
While you are taking respectful requests, would you please clarify why Trump is not the archetypical lifelong lib/Dem/prog who who sought and obtained leadership of what was once a conservative movement? Thanks.
Competitive businessman. Doesn’t mess around ie. “Ya Fiyyud”. Active in Republican politics until it went too far to the left by the late 90’s. Didn’t like Bush. That makes him a good start. Do we need to revisit 2015 again? The country needed a change. Trump led that charge at great effort. The cucks at NR would never go against the grain and do something like that. That was AC’s point.
When I first heard Donald was running, I was reticent, because we have been burned a lot, and Donald had not exactly cultured his image as an ideological conservative. When I heard him talking, and saw the moves he made, I realized something however. He was using the principles of cognitive neuroscience, and as Scott Adams calls it, persuasion, to drive the electorate rightward and ignite K-instincts in people. If he had been a lifelong prog or lib, he would have entered the Conservative contest, and used those powers to try and turn the right leftward, to split support from the established candidates, and curry favor with the establishment GOP.
What I saw was a conscious effort to use his specific powers to fuel the movement, which given Cruz’s established bonafides, was a very risky move compared to selling out to the establishment, and taking Jeb Bush’s deal while moving things left. It was decisive in my support of him, because like many I have been burned by the liberal wing of the Republican party too many times.
Of course I knew of Don Jr’s and Erik’s bonafides already, so that didn’t hurt. They are decisively pro-freedom conservatives (and diehard NRA/hunters/outdoorsmen), and you can see they and The President are tight. Now I look at the NRA issue, and realize this is a guy who wants America to be K, and who is fighting the leftist cultural degradation at every turn. That is something that requires a deeper urge than just raw political ambition.
There’s a lot of good material in this subreddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BPDlovedones/
The extent and range in which this destructive behavior manifests itself is stunning.
When I imagine the kind of narcissist that would switch sides suddenly, I think of MovieBob:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bob-moviebob-chipman.5873/
Currently a raging leftist technocrat who thinks all Trump voters are “garbage people” living in flyover states. Believes that a political philosophy built around personal responsibility is bad because “most people don’t know what’s best for them”. Spent most of his young adulthood sitting in his car playing video games and avoiding his family. Adopts or rejects beliefs depending on whether or not he thinks they will make him popular.
You could write an entire dissertation on Narcissim about MovieBob. (I used to watch his videos all the time, until he went gaga for Anita Sarkeesian during Gamergate and lost his damn mind…)
“I used to watch his videos all the time, until”
Then you should have realized that this narcissism started way before he went gaga for anita. Look at the Youtube Attention Whore crowd that makes these clickbait videos talking about the news or playing videogames while talking dumb shit. They are all pathological people, just most of them have enough sense to shut their mouth about stuff that cold cut their subscriber base in half.