Snowden’s finishing piece will be the list of names of Americans which have been spied upon by the NSA. If it is the full list, that is big. However, if Snowden is a double being run by NSA, and it is a partial list the NSA wants given out to make it all look like this is no big deal, then, not so much. Assuming it will be a full list, it is tempting to immediately see the scandal as being the Conservative names on the list, but a bigger scandal looms.
If the NSA has routinely gathered intelligence on “keystone” government officials – those who support the entire edifice of the government – things will get interesting. Suddenly we go from a government elected by the people to serve the people, to a government secretly run by maybe a handful of people whom nobody has heard of, through blackmail controlled, elected proxies that we are allowed to select – if they will do the bidding of the secret powerbrokers. And maybe even that is a generous view of how free we are and how much say we have.
There will be hearings, and political posturing by angry Senators and Representatives, but I suspect none of this will matter now. Like it or not, the forces of r/K rule our political (and revolutionary) predispositions, just as a practical matter. As long as everyone’s bellies are full, few men will put their families and children at risk to change a system which is currently allowing them to eat and survive.
Under conditions of r, fighting is almost always maladaptive, from a practical standpoint, even if it’s moral propriety is unquestioned. Even if the moral propriety is unquestioned, those who would fight first, before the masses are ready, are probably best served waiting themselves, until the environment is favorable to their cause anyway. By waiting, they will increase the chances of their victory, and maybe their own survival, to witness the freedom they create.
When r turns to K, people will begin to exhibit generally pissed off, irritable dispositions. When they see that their families might not get to eat because some welfarite needs the money for their EBT-card-fueled rock-lobster dinner, there will be no moral reason to not tear down the government, probably through massive secession, and they will all be emotionally primed to do it.
Those will be, as the old saying describes, “interesting times.”
Regardless, if the Zerohedge article above is even half correct, then this will be the biggest revelation about our government in history, and maybe the biggest revelation ever. We, the greatest and most free nation in history, could, theoretically, live under a government that is essentially identical to Russia’s, where a few unknown Oligarchs run everything and control everything, from business, to the legislature, to the military, to the judiciary – all while we believed that we lived under the exact opposite form of government.
The only thing which would be more historic would be a full, global economic collapse, or maybe a minor ice age.
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…if CNN, MSNBC, CBC and Fox are all covering Snowden then the government wants the news out. So in other words we are being “nudged” in the direction the government puppet master want.
since NBC had an exclusive with Snowden then we are being played.
“exhibit generally pissed off, irritable dispositions. ”
That’s me about 80% of the time, which is why I avoid the stupid every change I get.
I think there’s another important question we have to figure out, how much of what the NSA did was only possible because they are a government agency? If what they did is legally and practically doable by a private corporation, then how angry should we really get?
nonsense: if he hated tyranny why’d he go to red china!?shit. this was an atctak on our defenses.THERE’S A SIMPLE REASON WHY THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTS DATA ON EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN: THEY’RE TOO DANG POLITICALLY CORRECT TO PROFILE AND TARGET THE REAL ENEMY, THE ISLAMISTS. YES: We need to data-mine.BUT:WE’D HAVE A LOT MORE FOCUSED AND EFFECTIVE COUNTER-ATTACK ON THE ENEMY IF INSTEAD OF HAVING THE NSA LISTEN TO EVERY DANG PHONE CALL AND READ EVERY DANG EMAIL AND ANALYZE EVERY DANG GOOGLE WORD-SEARCH, THEY WENT AFTER ISLAMISTS. besides: data-mining everything from everyone wastes resources and time.
Here is one I think you might like to read
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/05/20/how-to-talk-to-a-useful-idiot-aka-democrats/
cheers
I sometimes wonder if K’s are too self-reliant for their own good? I mean, it takes quite a bit to get us really angry enough to use violence. That’s partly because we have families to think about and responsibilities that obviates any narcissism we might exhibit. I think what would have to happen is that the government does what they can to harm our families directly.
Probably right, though I am not sure how government will maintain it’s ability to operate at this level, in the coming collapse, without sufficent resources to support all of its employees.
this essay is in a similar vein as to the r/K theory …not a good outlook either.
http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/06/collectivism-always-poised-win/
regards
Thanks General. I’m not sure the outlook is quite so bleak. I think if we are as Conservative as we are now, after the collaspe expecting an aggressive anti-commie purge might be the cautious outlook.
Keep teh faith brother.
April of 2016 and still only a few from the list has been shown;
Where is the entire list?
Post the link to the document.