A commenter noted Vox linked to this, and has a discussion of it:
I suspected a couple of things based on that. One, he seems reflexively scared of the brother, so I would assume the brother tortured him to condition that. You could see it when he said the brother was dead, so he could bad mouth him now. If he wasn’t dead, he wouldn’t say shit about him.
And two, I see in his behavior a younger brother who as a child was probably called out on his brother’s hijinks, and who feared his mother and/or father too. This left him in the uncomfortable position when called out on what was done, of having to find a way to put the blame on his brother without actually blaming his brother. If he blamed the brother, the brother would get him for it, but if he didn’t he had to deal with mom and/or dad.
When I see this video, I see him watching his brother steal money from his violent step-father’s wallet, and then duck out the door to go score drugs. Later I see the step-father catch up with him, and in trying to trick him into giving up his brother, saying, “Did you know Stevie stole the money out of my wallet?”
He can’t say yes, partly because he would get beaten for being complicit by not saying anything to his step-father at the time the money was being stolen, and partly because his brother would beat him for saying anything. So he begins dancing, by saying he had no idea, and he is shocked, but he isn’t going to say it couldn’t have happened because he doesn’t want to get blamed either. So he says he can’t believe it, and is in shock – though he isn’t going to say his brother is an angel who would never do that – but he is just in shock because he is so good a person he would never do it himself, so please don’t think I am saying my brother did this, because I am not.
These conditioned emotional programs stick into adulthood. Suddenly his brother has done something bad as an adult, authority is asking “Did you know he did this?,” and now he is back as a child, reflexively trying to deny he was involved, while not saying his brother is a great guy who didn’t do it, but kind of sticking up for his brother enough to not be ratting him out. When a chance comes to deflect blame, he immediately says to find out who sold him the machineguns. It is just a reflex to deflect the attention, even though he almost certainly wasn’t involved. “Who the hell is selling him the drugs he stole the money to buy?! Selling drugs to kids – that’s a bad person! I’d like to find him!”
It comes off as deceptive and he shows all the tells, because he is replaying a manipulative/deceptive program he executed as a child. He probably is lying about the brother not being political in some way, and he is lying about the brother being normal and them getting along, though it is possible he doesn’t know the details of his brother’s politics well because they were estranged.
I think that is why it is weird. He looks like he is lying, and he kind of is, but not for any reason. It is just what he is programmed to do when confronted about what his brother has done.
It takes a scary environment to screw someone up this bad. I have no idea if the brother is evil, but I am sure he has suffered himself.
His/their father was a bona fide psychopath. Diagnosed. Robbed banks, spent time on the FBI 10 Most Wanted list.
Having a sociopathic brother is good pratice for the Apocalypse. Teaches you to never trust anyone and to be constantly paranoid, which is a good thing.
Someone leaked multiple photos of the crime scene to Fox Boston, including photos of the shooter’s dead body.
Is this a subtle reminder/threat from local law enforcement to the FBI—Don’t cover anything up for PC reasons or else the truth will be leaked?
Also will we see toxicology reports regarding the shooter and SSRIs? I’m not familiar with the argument that SSRIs encourage or fuels violent behavior, but it’s intriguing and a testable hypothesis.
Another possibility is that he is afraid for his life. We know that the shooter was in some sort of line work where he would disappear for weeks at a time, then re-emerge flush with cash. This almost implies criminal work done in conjunction with associates. Possibly smuggling; he did own aircraft. To me, the brother has a look on his face like he’s just trying to get through the interview without saying something that is going to get him and his family killed. I mean, he looks really scared.
That’s possible. And Gambling is great for money laundering. You walk in, hand the chips to your boss, and he walks out with IRS-reportable income.
Hey AC-
Glad you are here to help us decipher all this crazy stuff. This attack has to be the hardest to pin down/figure out of any I’ve seen.
I read that book on Columbine that came out a few years ago (which is extremely well done I should add) and I’ve read other books on school shooters, studied the 9/11 hijackers in depth, and think I understand all this pretty well, but this one is just bizarre. Millionaire accountant and real estate investor kills 50+ and wounds 500+? So weird… I haven’t heard or seen any news since last night though so its possible more info has come to light.
Think it must just be psychopathy or sociopathy or something… I guess in a world of 7 billion there are bound to be outliers like this morally/behaviorally.
After something like this it is important to look for some basic tells from witnesses too. It helps increase confidence in recounting of events for the public. Its not always easy to do.
Look at the emotional connection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2O7niupAGY
and for this one, the lack of emotional connection when recounting (skilled lying, conman level)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEtsQCAYDQ
Maybe his is just full of lies! Not really his brother at all! An actor! Second interview bizarre as if he was sent out to clean up the narrative!
r/K is spreading…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6WcyMVxwo
Wonderful video, I’m going to spread that around. Thanks for sharing, have a great day!
That is exactly it. They were leaked to /pol, and when the leaker was asked where he got them, he said “work.”
Other anons have emails from LVPD contacts who claim that he was an Arms Dealer who was being protected by the FBI (their asset) and was doing a sting on ISIS. The deal went bad, ISIS took him hostage, used the guns he was selling to conduct the attack, and then killed him, escaping with him holding the bag.
Can’t verify that — it’s /pol rumor, so it’s either 100% correct, or complete LARP.
Same anon says that the pics were a warning, because LVPD is afraid that the FBI plans to memory hole the video recordings of the attack. That anon said that they will burn the FBI if they do, because they have casino footage going back months showing him meeting known terrorists in casinos. In the story, LVPD hasn’t already burned them because the FBI claims the secrecy is needed for now to keep the ISIS guys from bolting from the country before they can catch them.
A separate /pol anon noted lots of things, like now he worked finance for Lockheed Martin despite multiple felons in his immediate family, which suggests heavily a NOC job, that his private plane patterns are “unusual” for a private operator, and his final note was the he was a Seven-Star Club Member. He literally said, “don’t want to give away tradecraft, but a HUGE red flag.”
I’ll give away the tradecraft. 7 Star requires around $200K a year in gambling. Someone playing that much video poker (which is what he played) at $100 a hand is someone who plays it like a part time job. You do that when it is a part time job — laundering your money.
This money laundering, FBI sting gone bad is interesting as it would explain a lot but it wouldn’t explain where ISIS went. It wouldn’t explain why they shot up all those people and then got away.
It is looking more and more like this guy was into some shady stuff. You don’t get to be a millionaire by being an accountant and managing some apartments which is all the things that I heard that he’s done. Where did he get the millions?
It will be interesting to get the whole story when it comes out. There may be some real criminals shitting their pants right now.
I think you are spot on with your analysis of the brother’s “tells.”
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Shooters wife said he was suffering badly prior to attack he was moaning and groaning in great pain. I think he had intercepted Isis with his gun runnng? they had BLACKMAILED him – to do attack or else dire consequences – to his family? etc.