This seems to be quoted quite commonly:
The House Homeland Security Committee heard expert testimony yesterday on the effects of a high-altitude nuclear detonation that could knock out the U.S. electrical grid for up to a year, resulting in the deaths of 90% of Americans.
A nuclear attack from space would generate an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, that would “inflict devastating damage” on the U.S.
Washington Examiner:
In calling on the Pentagon and President Trump to move quickly to protect the grid, the experts testified that an explosion of a high-altitude nuclear bomb delivered by a missile or satellite “could be to shut down the U.S. electric power grid for an indefinite period, leading to the death within a year of up to 90 percent of all Americans.”
I know on one survivalist board, there was a guy saying that anyone with intelligence would, the second the collapse began, take out 5 gallon buckets, and shoot a hole in the bottom of every electric transformer they could find. Then they would place the bucket to catch the mineral oil that came out under it, because there would not be any more of that once the collapse went down.
I realized that whether the collapse was as bad as advertised or not, there were more than enough rubes out there to make sure it was as bad as advertised.
The big thing will be everyone cleaning out every store. Food, fuel, building supplies, weapons, ammo. It will all disappear fast as the hoarders start to hoard, and that will fuel panic. From there resupply will begin to get hijacked, panic will build further as shortage sets in, and as the minorities begin burning down their own neighborhoods, the real fun will begin.
90% could be a massive underestimate. Fortunately, I expect that within that 90% will be 100% of all liberals.
That will mean that we will quickly see Renaissance 2.0 – and who among us is not ready for that.
Tell everyone about r/K Theory, because a Renaissance is a terrible thing to waste
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90% of the people they care about. New Yorkers, LA, San Fran, maybe Chicago. Smaller towns and maybe even smaller cities should be more or less Okay, at least in the Midwest where I live. West, southwest, far west? Pretty bad in most of it, not much food production. North East? Ditto. Miami, 90%, and the only survivors those with boats.
Yeah yeah, this is all very nice and all but lets start asking the important questions:
Will there be avocado toast after the Apocalypse?
LOL
What would you do with the mineral oil?
I imagine fuel and lubrication for machines. I’m not sure those guys had fully thought it through though. I just took away that there would be a lot of people stripping everything down for parts, and probably not a lot of people building things back up.
In third world countries they steal it and cook with it. A little PCB with your fried plantain?
One of the reasons they can’t get electricity to the rural areas.
I did some consulting for a while when this collapse panic started to come back a few years ago and this instant collapse idea is total nonsense. The WHO and the World Bank published a lot of reports from the Yugoslavia Breakup Wars to the Syria Civil War about how the step by step process of a collapse happens and its never ever the instant lights out moment. The people who actualy did loot as soon as the lights went out the first time were rounded up for the most part. Or they had the infastructure to store loot and sell it over the next months to lay low. Also most civilians who die first phase are the refugees on the road, the people who wanted to bug out and got in the crossfire or their vehicle was suspicious. Also these civilian casualties are not so much among the urbanites, since the cities are the place where the people run to. Spend the night in the countryside unknowing about the “whats out there” in the dark and you get the idea why a city is more secure during war time then some isolated village.
Point is after all that number crushing i can’t stand these Y2K scare survival clichees no more and they just make me angry cause they ain’t correct and rather get people killed.
Nobody can say anything for certain. But we know the banks will, at some point, not have deposits, people will make runs on the banks, and that will be a feature. I’m not saying you won’t get a warning. But there will probably come a moment, in this interconnected world, where everyone realizes at once that this time will be real and things are diffeerent.
My suspicion is in Yugoslavia and Syria any collapse will play out differently, as one, there are relatives overseas who can send in some form of support from an area that is still wealthy and functional, so it will buffer them on the way down. I mean, North Korea has money flowing in today, and the entire world is trying to constrain them. But when it hits the west, there will not be external support. And the people, at least in the cities, will not be ready for that.
And two, I suspect the racial/religious animus in many areas will make things worse. I have never seen Syrians burn their own neighborhoods down, because they are upset about something.
For most types of collapse, I agree. An EMP would be a different order of event, much bigger scale since even local power sources would mostly fail immediately, with mass fire in all urban areas and many homes.
Shoot. I know what’s out there in the woods, and I know what’s out there in the city. You’re correct, you all should stay there.
Besides, I’m out here,… and I can see you. 😉
This is why I keep all my NVGs, NV scopes and geiger counters in Faraday cages.
Can the power infrastructure not be operated manually, by engineers and technicians on site? Not so efficiently as with electronic controls, but still functioning? Burn fuel, heat water, make steam, turn turbines, spin generators? This 90% figure sounds like tabloid pablum.
OTOH, never let a crisis go to waste. Make sure that areas hostile to K interests are the last to see the power come back.
No one ever notes what happens to the nuclear power plants dotting the USA if there’s an EMP/Solar Flare that knocks out electricity generation. Within hours of losing power, all those plants’ spent fuel pools, the ones JUST LIKE FUKUSHIMA’S, burn, and downwind from the plants becomes an uninhabitable wasteland for generations.
People think “kicking the can down the road” was worst in the debt markets? Hah. The collective stupidity of running “nuclear power” in such a phenomenally insane way takes the cake across the board. Today’s nuke plants can’t just switch off. It is a catastrophe just waiting to happen, and while it waits, more “spent” fuel rods accumulate in temporary storage.
No one did in Japan because of the Nuclear Plant, people died during the evacuation and mostly because of the flood. Today there is not one radiation dead.
The nuke plants make their own power. Why would a grid failure shut them down?
Side note: I somehow can’t comment at Vox Popoli any more, but I still make a point of reading your comments. Good shooting. At some point I’ll get a new computer and get back on board.
Nuke plants are run with lots of software. In an EMP event, ALL electronics would stop working.
This one amazes me. Intelligent (for values) people who can not hear the “as long as things continue as they are” in all their plans.