News Briefs – 01/26/2023

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Follow Don Jr on twitter here.

“Make sure those you follow talk about the surveillance, because everyone who is in the game knows. Make them either damage the machine by saying it, or reveal they are part of it by staying silent. Demanding our side talk about the surveillance is really the closest to a Xanatos gambit our side has.”

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DFT – Chevron To Hold $75 Billion Buyback

DFT – Meta And Instagram Restore Trump’s Accounts

DFT – Morgan Stanley Issues Penalties To Workers For Using Apps Like WhatsApp

DFT – Tesla Rises As Profits And Revenues Beat Expectations

DFT – British Amazon Workers Strike For The First Time In History

A great link from the comments – the new phenomenon where people look through old photographs and notice their boyfriend, husband, roommate, family of someone close to them, is in the background of the old photo, from long before they met. Obviously, some can be coincidence. But I suspect others will prove to be surveillance tracking a target who they developed a crush on, or were assigned to, and eventually got permission, or maybe even orders, to approach, and initiate an intimate relationship with. You would tend to think it wouldn’t be this big, but in my high school, I would estimate there were about twenty to thirty kids in it, in a class of maybe 180-200. It could have just been a hive of them there, but I am not so sure.

It is the 4Chan GATE Jewish/Israeli girlfriend thing. Almost every kid on those 4Chan threads had the Jewish/Israeli girl who threw themselves at him. I did as well, and in my case I also got a psyop of what I thought were just regular friends, putting on clearly previously scripted shows around me, of how much they all wanted to date her, even though none of them ever approached her in all of high school. Clearly adults somewhere were giving all of them orders, and I assume that continues for them into adulthood, as command calls all their shots.

And there will be a goodly part of your coverage you do not see. I was swarmed one day while out shopping, only saw new faces, got home, and out in front of my house two of the surveillance kids, about ten years old, were walking by and talking. One pointed at my house and asked who lived there, and the neighbor kid said, “Oh, we followed him today.” I had not seen him or his mom, but apparently they were there, in the background as I was moving. I assume his mom is something like a primary commander handling my case, from the house next door. That is also the house the vibrations seem to come from, and which they are tightly focused when I sleep on that side of the house, and more diffuse over the body as I get to the far side of the house.

This thing has been around a long time. In my family I can say decades, for more than one generation. But it could be centuries, or even millennia. Secret cheaters, exploiting the honest natures of others, and enjoying the advantages of it, is an end state any natural population will gravitate toward, so there is no telling how early this formed. It could be even older.

Given you have this secret society, trolling through the population, watching everyone, learning all their secrets, seeing them over and over, I think it is inevitable it will become like a secret matchmaking service, at least from Cabal’s side, where the secret society gets familiar with people, develops attractions to people, can know when they are available, when existent relationships are on the rocks, and knows enough about a person that they can walk in and fulfill all of that person’s desires immediately without having to actually get to know them. There may also be a farmer/livestock thing going on at the elite levels, and I am sure some of the relationships are just missions to get closer to a target.

However the culture of their society is inherently dishonest, and manipulative. They may be cynical, and think everyone is dishonest and manipulative to a degree, they are just honest about embracing it. I don’t know. But I know from the time they are children, they are lying to other kids, manipulating them into one thing or another, betraying them to command. And it continues into adulthood. So if that is already your daily behavior from your earliest days as a child, then approaching a hot girl you have been surveilling, using her psych file to manipulate her, and using inside knowledge of her life to get her into a relationship is probably no different than any other Monday.

What is interesting to me is, I think once they have done this, in the vast, vast majority of cases, they can never really open up to their partner. They can never let their partner know they are a target, let them know they were manipulated into the relationship, let them know the degree to which their life-paths were manipulated, impacted, altered, by this thing they serve – some ominous, faceless, controller in the shadows somewhere, operating for his secret society by screwing over everyone else. So they keep going day by day, have kids, get old, and never do they open up to the person who trusts them more than anyone else.

I think we are going to find out, in many, many cases, there will be many, many people who spent their lives, their most intimate relationships, just being completely betrayed say in and day out, by somebody they never even had the faintest understanding of, even as they had kids, and built their lives together.

Kari Lake bombshell: Some 200,000 votes in Maricopa County, which skews red, were not properly tabulated and actually failed.

Shelby Busch went through the system log files for the machines in Maricopa County, and found that not a single tabulator met Election Assistance Comission standards on Election Day.

Shasta, where Trump won big in 2020, to become first California county to drop Dominion.

Feds adapting AI used to silence ISIS to combat American dissent on unsafe & ineffective “vaccines”, and rigged elections. I was using a different computer, and tried to get to Q’s board by going to 8kun.top for the first time on that system, and I got a 404. Hit reload, and the page loaded. If I had never been there before, or been uncertain of the address, I might have bounced and gone elsewhere, thinking there was no site there.

The National Archives has ignored the House Oversight Committee’s deadline to comply with requested documents related to President Joe Biden’s classified document scandal, according to the committee’s spokesperson.

Greg Kelly on Twitter – Watch Mike Pence’s FOOT. He’s tapping and Fidgeting All Over The Place when he’s asked about Classified Stuff.

Mike Pompeo says Adam Schiff ‘leaked classified information that had been provided to him.’

The House Oversight Committee is demanding that first son Hunter Biden’s art dealer hand over sales information and book an interview with congressional investigators about possible influence-peddling.

Matt Gaetz: “They had to accuse Trump of colluding with Russia because he was the only one who wasn’t.”

Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton are sidestepping the classified documents controversies embroiling their successors, with staffers saying the former presidents all turned over their materials to the National Archives and Records Administration years ago when they left office.

San Fran judge orders release of bodycam footage from Paul Pelosi hammer attack.

Interesting article on Hunter’s cousin, the girl who charged $100,000 in makeup to a fraudulent credit card, dodged the grand larceny charge and got probation, then got busted for DUI, but again dodged any time. She will not take any job her family would get her for less than $180K.

Failed Texas gubernatorial candidate Beto O’Rourke has claimed that he returned a $1 million donation from disgraced former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried; however, it appears that he did not return all of the money, keeping $100,000.

Representative Nancy Pelosi’s decision to sell her Google stocks just a month before the Department of Justice (DOJ) and eight states sued the tech giant has raised eyebrows as to whether she knew a massive antitrust lawsuit was coming.

Fashion firm claims its clothing can hide you from surveillance cameras by tricking them into thinking you’re an animal.

Twitter CEO Elon Musk caves to pressure from India and BLOCKS all Indian users from accessing links to BBC doc criticizing PM Narendra Modi.

Instead of just talking to the media and getting in front of a camera to reassure people, Damar Hamlin decides to have a friend show a facetime video of him on his phone, where he is holding his hands in front fo his face for most of it.

New Veritas video – Pfizer exploring “mutating” COVID-19 virus for new vaccines – “Don’t tell anyone this…There is a risk…have to be very controlled to make sure this virus you mutate doesn’t create something…the way that the virus started in Wuhan, to be honest.” Yeah, we have to be careful because if we release another Covid we will make another $85 billion.

In an act of vengeance, the Pentagon is demanding fired soldiers pay back bonuses for refusing COVID jabs.

Simon Dunn, famed Australian Olympian and Rugby player, dies suddenly at 35!

UK ONS admits their data is flawed; the vaccines may not be beneficial after all. Sorry about that.

Justin Bieber cashes out at 28, sells entire song catalog for $200 mil, raises questions about recording and touring future. His vax injury?

New U.S. research finds evidence linking Monsanto weedkiller to cancer.

Tractor Supply chicken feed reportedly causing egglaying to stop, board has ties to WEF, Jeffrey Epstein.

Only 48 percent of registered voters say the nation is suffering from a border crisis and only 45 percent of adults strongly blame President Joe Biden, according to a new poll by YouGov.

Pennsylvania, but probably all over too – Audits of 12 school districts has state Auditor General Timothy DeFoor believing school boards are playing a “shell game” with taxpayer funds by moving money into reserve accounts to allow them to make a case for raising property tax rates. It is OK, it is just people getting forced out of their homes, that they bought, once they can’t afford the new level of the government extortion.

White House readies its next economy-destroying, unconstitutional scheme: Legally mandated grace periods on rents and taxpayer funded legal representation to fight evicitions.

DirecTV drops Newsmax months after getting rid of OAN.

Draft bill sheds light on possible assault weapons ban in Colorado.

N.Y. legislature votes to codify abortion in state constitution — Measure goes to voters in 2024.

Demonic looking statue placed on NYC courthouse.

A guy is out doing a video, alleging the streetlights are being used to scan people. In the process he is also obviously filming the poles by a major health center (where radioactive isotopes or other pharmaceutical agents could be stolen) and this is a still from his video, as he swept the camera around him:

Your Mark I Postal service Truck of Death™, and someone reading on their phone.

Adam Lanza’s bedroom:

You do that when people are spying on you and flying drones up to your windows at night in the dark to peek in cracks. It would also seem mom had no problem with it, or thought it explainable enough she would take him shooting, if any of that story can be believed.

Stacey Abrams adviser said burning police car, smashing windows isn’t ‘violence’ after anti-cop chaos.

New Mexico lawmakers propose bill to chemically castrate pedophiles as parole condition.

Video game firm fires woman after trans activist publicly branded her a ‘transphobe’ for following conservative accounts and ‘voicing excitement over Harry Potter game.’

Homosexuals must no longer be chaste in order to lead Godly lives, [Church of England] Bishop of London says.

Pope Francis lamented that the use of guns by civilians to defend themselves is becoming a “habit.”

Scottish trans ‘woman’ convicted of raping two women may be headed to women’s prison.

Sword-wielding Muslim attacks church in Algeciras, Spain. Many casualties, priest dead.

In Germany, two people were killed and five injured in a knife attack on a regional train from Kiel to Hamburg. Is this like how shootings cluster in the US?

North Korea has ordered a five-day lockdown in the capital over “respiratory illness.”

Study finds US would run out of long-range munitions in 1 week in China hot war.

German Federal Minister for Foreign Affairs, says the US and Europe are fighting a war against Russia.

Vladimir Putin is negotiating with the Taliban to purchase the billions of dollars of military equipment Joe Biden left behind in Afghanistan. Reportedly Viktor Bout, who we just released, had armed the Taliban way back, and is using his connections to make it happen.

Germany agrees to send 2 battalions of Leopard 2 tanks after heavy pressure.

Despite concerns, US to send 31 Abrams tanks to Ukraine. However delivery will take a while.

Now that Ukraine is finally getting the tanks it wants, it’s already looking for the next big thing — F-16 fighter jets.

Russia fumes at West’s decision to send tanks to Ukraine, says red lines have been crossed.

Leopard 2 tanks bought by Turkey to fight British-backed Kurds has numerous faults exposed in lethal fashion.

Ukrainian officials blew $100 billion in US uniparty dollars on sports cars, mansions, luxury vacations, etc.

A study suggests that some patients diagnosed with behavioral-variant frontotemporal dementia (bvFTD)—an incurable condition that robs patients of the ability to control their behavior—may instead have a cerebrospinal fluid leak, which is often treatable.

Arizona lawmakers push bill to make Bitcoin legal tender.

GOP House Members Introduce Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act. Although it won’t go anywhere with Biden in office, it does push the public’s Overton Window.

President Trump responds to Facebook (Meta’s) decision to reinstate President Trump on Facebook and Instagram.

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Just Me
Just Me
1 year ago

K-selection in action.

The hero instinct: Women are more attracted to rugged men like Chris Hemsworth and Jason Momoa during times of uncertainty, study finds

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11678655/Women-attracted-rugged-men-like-Chris-Hemsworth-times-uncertainty-study-finds.html

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> it appears that he did not return all of the money, keeping $100,000.

Alas, by Federal Election Commission regulations, that’s perfectly legal. Lying about returning the money… politicians lie. It’s not a crime either.

Beto is still a weasel, though.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> Twitter CEO Elon Musk caves to pressure from India and BLOCKS all Indian users from accessing links to BBC doc criticizing PM Narendra Modi.

India is a sovereign nation, with its own laws, courts, government, and everything.

Every data packet that moves in and out of India is subject to approval by the Indian government. I don’t know if they’ve built a big national firewall like the US, Britain, Australia, Singapore, Russia, and China, but they could still order local ISPs to block all Twitter traffic in the country, and issue arrest warrants for any Twitter employees that might venture into Indian territory.

You do business in a country, you have to obey its regulations and court orders. No different than the USA or China.

Mr Twister
Mr Twister
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

Good for India, now can we please block the
Buggering Boys Collective,
Bolshevics Broadcasting communism
In Britain please.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

>  Yeah, we have to be careful because if we release another Covid we will make another $85 billion.

Back at the turn of the century, under Castro, the Cuban government sank a ton of money into the biological research sector, buying state of the art hardware and hiring the best foreign help they could get as researchers and teachers. Cuba was going to become the biomedical leader of the world.

It was big news for a while, and I haven’t heard a peep since. While it’s most likely that all the money was simply absorbed by Communist corruption and side deals, it makes me wonder what they might have been working on, and how far they got with it.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> school boards are playing a “shell game” with taxpayer funds by moving money into reserve accounts to allow them to make a case for raising property tax rates. 

Taxing real estate or “real properties” to fund the schools is common nationwide. But why should I pay tax on my house and my car to provide “free” daycare for someone else’s children? I don’t have any children, why should I pay for someone else’s?

The tax advocates usually claim “but you were the beneficiary of that as a child, so it’s only fair you should pay it back.” No, I didn’t want to be in their stinking daycare centers. And I’ve surely paid a *lot* more “back” than that unwanted “service” cost.

That looks like “taxation without representation” to me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

How is this taxation w/out representation? Are you unable to vote for the school board?

teo toon
teo toon
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

Bwahahahaha!
Have you learned nothing?

Farcesensitive
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

Property taxes are evil.
They mean you can’t own any land and must pay rents to the landlord as if we still lived under feudalism.
At a minimum all primary residences must be made exempt.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

This is why many school districts offer “Adult Education ” classes like knitting or auto repair.

Mr Twister
Mr Twister
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

For me the issue in the UK, is representation without taxation!

Every city with a University is being screwed by “Students” Aka Universitards, who can vote but are nothing but parasites on the indigenous population, they pay no taxes yet vote for leftists parties coz their surrogate parents on faculty tell them what to vote for.

And then they Fuck off after 3-4 years, leaving rhe inhabitants of that city thinking their neighbours are complete tards.

In my city we have 2 universities a college and countless language schools, I suspect they make up 25+% of the electorate.

No representation without taxation please.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Mr Twister
1 year ago

It happens all the time over here.
If you move to a new region you should have to wait 10 years to vote there.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

Young Men who are in their Teens ought to have started their Apprenticeships.

Then they will have gotten a steady income and good career in their 20’s and be able to marry.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> You do that when people are spying on you and flying drones up to your windows at night in the dark to peek in cracks. It would also seem mom had no problem with it,

I’ve known several perfectly normal adults who did that. Even the merest glimmer of light would disturb their sleep. I used to do it, when I had the front bedroom in a house at the end of a street; every few minutes, all night long, the room would be lit up by headlights.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> Adam Lanza’s bedroom:
—-
I see one pillow, a TV, a compact encyclopedia(?), and not much of anything else. Other than the books(?) in the TV stand, the room looks like it has been stripped of all personal items.

I’ve seen pictures of prison cells that showed more of their occupants.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

> Justin Bieber
Cue the “behind the music” documentary script…
“10 years later he hit rock bottom…. but now he’s getting clean and staging a comeback.”
Of course we know it’s not his money in the first place.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

He reportedly had a bad reaction to the vax. Maybe he has to quietly fade out of the music business.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> Study finds US would run out of long-range munitions in 1 week in China hot war.

The purpose of military intelligence is to know what resources your enemy has. I will bet five quatloos that the collective US military intelligence agencies have no freaking idea about what, where, and how many weapons the Chinese have in inventory.

For that matter, the Pentagon still can’t account for over a trillion dollars in funding, despite the matter being raised almost ten years ago.

You know, I’m beginning to understand why the Greeks, Romans, and Byzantines, eventually wound up hiring foreign mercenaries for their military endeavors. After enough time, their own military becomes too hidebound and inflexible to be effective.

Like the old US Army chief said, “The US Army is more like a heavily armed bureaucracy than anything else.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

blah blah blah, these days, no war lasts longer than 2 weeks…
Ever hear officers spouting that crap. Mind you, they also parrot “climate change”, diversity and any other NPC programming. They value their privileges more than truth.

phelps
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

Well, if they only bring a week of ammo like we are doing with china, they are still right.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

We wouldn’t want to enhance “climate change” firing off all that ammo. Better to surrender.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

>Vladimir Putin is negotiating with the Taliban to purchase the billions of dollars of military equipment Joe Biden left behind in Afghanistan. Reportedly Viktor Bout, who we just released, had armed the Taliban way back, and is using his connections to make it happen.

Hmm. Maybe the “exchange” wasn’t about a second-rate sportsball player at all. Now that Bout is back in action, he can kick ten per cent of the deal back to the Big Guy.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> Now that Ukraine is finally getting the tanks it wants, it’s already looking for the next big thing — F-16 fighter jets.

But of course! And the F-16s are a more effective aircraft than the vaunted F-35s, too.

Next: SRBMs and nuclear weapons. Because why not? They’ve gotten everthing else they’ve demanded.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

> Tractor Supply
Damn, another converged company
I really bought their down-home aw-shucks vibe
I must remember that vibe is only legit with small mom-n-pop operations
Any entity that’s got numerous locations across many states cannot be trusted

Scruffy2
Scruffy2
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

Are there contractors that make products for multiple companies like that?

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Scruffy2
1 year ago

Yes

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

This is a good point. Not all conspiracies require that everybody be “in on it.”

That being said, Im sure the top brass of Tractor Supply know the score and occasionally receive “requests” and “suggestions” that they know must be obeyed under penalty of death or worse.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> Ukrainian officials blew $100 billion in US uniparty dollars on sports cars, mansions, luxury vacations, etc.

Some of those were *my* dollars, extracted from my wallet via threat of prison for noncompliance.

TRX
TRX
1 year ago

> New Mexico lawmakers propose bill to chemically castrate pedophiles as parole condition.

The liberals *love* that idea; it keeps coming back time after time.

I wonder what happened to that “cruel and unusual punishment” clause?

I foresee frustrated pedos using their fists, baseball bats, or broken bottles as substitutes. And then we’ll have to put them in jail anyway, since executing them is still pretty much off the table.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

The idea is that castration reduces libido and therefore the motivator for sexual activity. The obvious flaw is that most of these crimes probably aren’t truly motivated by just sexual urges but by far more sinister motives.

It’s akin to advocating that psychopathic serial killers should get anger management because they use violence to murder, where they completely misunderstand the motive and try to autistically “cure” the symptoms.

I don’t know if pedos can ever be saved; I tend to think all souls can be redeemed through Jesus Christ if they want it. I also know that the Bible says millstones are appropriate judgement for those who lead children astray. I lean to the side that doesn’t give once-offenders opportunities to become twice-offenders when kids are involved.

Sam J.
Sam J.
1 year ago

Leopard 2 tanks bought by Turkey to fight British-backed Kurds has numerous faults exposed in lethal fashion.

It’s not that they are bad tanks. It’s that tanks are at the end of their usefulness. Computer driven advances are making them vulnerable. If you can hit them with most anything fast enough they will be punctured. They fire plastic pellets in railguns and blast through large chunks of aluminum.

General Eric Shinseki was stymied by the heavy armor guys so he took a kinetic kill missile carried by a Humvee and blasted right through a M1. His point got the Stryker funded because it proved heavy armor was not cost effective. Worse you can’t move the heavy things. Hardly any bridges will support them. People complain about the Stryker but a 100% of something you can move to the battlefield fast when you need it beats 100% of nothing that you have to load on a ship to get there after you need it every time.

“…The M-1 is the best tank in the world, if you can get it to the war in time, if you have a Saddam Hussein who’ll give you seven months to move your forces in. If the Mexicans ever cross the Rio Grande, Fort Hood is ready for them. It’s a great tank. It’s lethal. But clearly, velocity matters…”

“…https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/future/interviews/peters.html…”

Battleships went through the same pattern in WWII. If you got close to them, they could ruin you but a plane flying high above could sink it and it could do very little to stop them. They cost so much they would bring them out every so often to flex and then run away when they found it in danger of being sink by some guys in fast patrol boat.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Not really fair to battleships. They actually did much better as air defense than carriers, and ended up escorting the carriers for that purpose unless there was an Atlanta class cruiser to do it. All the US BBs sunk by planes were at pearl harbor. Planes were a threat, but not a huge threat. They were more dangerous to the planes.
A better analogy is that the M1 is a dreadnought in 1940. They are built in the old style for the old purpose, and will need upgrades and replacement to stay relevant.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

Yes you’re right. I probably overdid it a bit on the battleships vs, aircraft. I remembered that one of the US battleships had a 2,000 pound??? bomb dropped on it and it only dented it a little. But I maintain that they were not too much use compared to “cost” which is what matters.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/1921-controversial-us-military-experiment-sunk-the-era-the-18736

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1983/09/21/divers-report-uss-arizona-blown-in-two-in-pearl-harbor-raid/2d0e4a61-9614-4faf-9995-2147b278a8ff/

After looking at few articles I now withdraw my firstr withdrawal and say yes it’s possible to sink a battleship with one bomb because that happened. Maybe it’s more difficult if moving, but if all you need is one…well.

English Tom
English Tom
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse, a battleship and battle cruiser were sunk by Japanese planes.

Regarding tanks, the 2006 Israeli foray into Lebanon against Hezbollah showed how obsolete tanks are. Israel’s much vaunted Merkaba tanks were destroyed en masse by Hezbollah ATGM missiles.

The recent Azerbaijan-Armenian conflict showed the vulnerability of tanks to armed drones. This is also seen in footage from Ukraine.

Tanks, as well as battleships are obsolete. If they turn the battleships into arsenal ships, loaded with hundreds of missiles they may still have a use, but we are well past the ‘Billy Mitchell’ moment and all the legacy systems from the industrial age have slim chance of survival in the sensor and missile rich environment that is the modern battlefield.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  English Tom
1 year ago

The British Battleships you mention were old and had not received the most modern upgrades that most US BBs had.

But I agree that in our time any heavily armored important asset is a waste and can be eliminated far too easily.
Offense has outstripped defense and that will not change soon if ever.

phelps
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

The prince of wales wasn’t old, and the repulse is hardly relevant. A battle cruiser has half the armor. Its like comparing an Abrahms to a Bradley.

Long answer deleted in favor of: British naval AA sucked.

Last edited 1 year ago by phelps
Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  English Tom
1 year ago

“…Israel’s much vaunted Merkaba tanks…”

They really are good tanks. Some of the best in the world. It’s just that tech to take them out or at the least make them inoperable has grown faster. They do have some newer active system that fires rounds at the anti-tank round and destroys them but if that really works, then you don’t need all that armor in the first place. Just add on the anti-tank attack system to a lighter, faster vehicle.

phelps
1 year ago

It is the 4Chan GATE Jewish/Israeli girlfriend thing. Almost every kid on those 4Chan threads had the Jewish/Israeli girl who threw themselves at him. 

I didn’t, but I see one that might have been sent that I caused to bail out on the assignment because I hit her with a few verbal killshots on dopey liberalism.

phelps
1 year ago

Apropos of nothing: I noticed my stockpile of liposomal vitamin C this morning, and it made me realize — since the last bout of covid, I haven’t been seriously sick. I know I’ve had it at least once from having both antibody types; I suspect I had it in Jan 2020 with Alpha (three weeks long) and then again in October 2021 with Omicron (one week, no where near as bad as Alpha.) The fact that I caught both of them are in the very early spread stages should tell you how easily I catch bugs.
My wife is an primary school teacher (church, not public) so I expect to get exposed to a lot of stuff, but other than a couple of 24 hour “I don’t feel great, I think I’ll take a nap” incidents, I went a whole year without a real cold or flu. I’ve never had that happen before.
I don’t know if I’m just healthier now, but I suspect that because of ADE, the various C-19 strains are crowding out the normal bugs like common cold coronavirii and the flu.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

That’s how the immune system should work. Ain’t nothing like the real thing baby

phelps
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

Yeah, but up until the last year, The Real Thing for me has been “get a cold at least once.” This year, I didn’t get a cold.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

Yesterday user teo toon posted a link to lamecherry on blogspot
What an interesting rabbit hole that turned out to be
While there I found a link to another article that talked about the current mess in Eastern Europe, WWII, and referenced the father of one Emmit Till
https://rense.com/general97/another-stalingrad.php
It’s always possible that both sites are disinformation or just crazy fan fiction, but it was interesting reading nonetheless

teo toon
teo toon
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

The rabbit hole is deep and gets even deeper: AC is a part of the rabbit hole. One has to follow the threads of truth and take the risks or follow the Great Deception right into the pits of Hell.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

>Leopard 2 tanks bought by Turkey to fight British-backed Kurds has numerous faults exposed in lethal fashion.

I’ve never been in real combat and certainly never in war planning, so ignore if this is just a pure autism take, but it seems the fact that every single FPS/war game developing the same meta tactic where speed and maneuverability win against slow, high-power tankiness should be some insight into the general nature of combat, no?

Obviously real war isn’t a game, but if it’s damn near impossible to design a system where being slow and heavily armored is the best strategy and many of these games aim towards some degree of “simulation” of reality then why wouldn’t the same gist apply to real life?

Are we in the modern version of “WWI generals cavalry charging machine guns” except its now multi-million dollar tanks getting popped by a $37 RPG?

phelps
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

Games aren’t simulators. Games are made to be fun. There is a lot of fun in zooming around shooting stuff. There is no fun shooting missile after missile at a tank until it just kills you, even when that is what happens in real life.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

“…shooting missile after missile at a tank until it just kills you…”

This is in fact contrary to recent wars where tanks were disabled by handheld anti-tank weapons.

“…Hezbollah countered IDF armor through the use of sophisticated Iranian-made anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). According to Merkava tank program administration, 52 Merkavamain battle tanks were damaged (45 of them by different kinds of ATGM), missiles penetrated 22 tanks, but only 5 tanks were destroyed, one of them by an improvised explosive device (IED). The Merkava tanks that were penetrated were predominantly Mark II and Mark III models, but five Mark IVs were also penetrated. All but two of these tanks were rebuilt and returned to service….”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War

US M1 tanks were penetrated on the side in Iraq by RPG’s. It didn’t destroy or disable it, but having holes punched in your tank by handheld rockets is not reassuring.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Now tell me how many shots were taken.

Also, in this example, out of 52 tanks hit (we don’t know by how many hits each) only one in 10 stopped shooting back at the troops firing at them.

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Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

“…tell me how many shots were taken…”

How many RPG rounds can you buy for the price of one tank? I sure you see the problem.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

How much money do you want to save losing the war?

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

And I ask you to consider if Israel with, it can not be denied, a really good tank can not prevail with tanks and only have to travel a few miles. How would we do so with tanks needing to be moved thousands of miles. Any real large war involving the movement of such, first the war would be over by the time you got them there and second it’s very likely that they would be attacked before they even hit the dirt or that’s what I would do. The Russians are going to track these German tanks and destroy them right away. You watch and we’ll see if I’m right. Those tanks will, I submit, be of very little use in this war and will be destroyed promptly.

It came to me another instance where tanks were defeated. The Chechen war. The Russians went in with tanks to the city and promptly were destroyed completely. They fired on them from basements and upper floors and killed them all. A debacle. What the Russians ended up doing was leveling every single thing before they went in. Now I guess you can say tanks are of some use after you leveled the whole entire city to the ground but I suspect that you could ride through leveled cities with something less costly than a tank and still reach whatever objective you had.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Those tanks will, I submit, be of very little use in this war and will be destroyed promptly.

Which war? Ukraine? If so, that’s what I’ve been saying from the start.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Cheap, plentiful, high rate of fire offensive weapons just good enough to succeed are the future of warfare.
Machine guns killed mass infantry and cavalry formations and we are close to having the equivalent for tanks.

It will require some unexpected sci-fi advances to swing the balance back in favor of defenses.

phelps
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

We’ve been close since the 1960s. “Missiles will kill the tank” has been the mantra every 10 years for the last 60 years. It turns out that the better armor guys are just as diligent as the better missile guys.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

“…It turns out that the better armor guys are just as diligent as the better missile guys.”

No. In every case it’s control of the air space that let tanks prevail. WWII German 88mmm blowing tanks up constantly but as the Germans lost the air war the mass of tanks of the Russians moved forward. Without loss of air cover, they would have all been death traps. A 88mm gun cost way less than a tank.

Israeli Arab war. In the Sinai Israel lost huge numbers of tanks to wire guided missiles but once again air power stopped them and only then were tanks able to move forward.

Russia in Chechen war. Tanks destroyed until air power crushed the whole entire city into the dirt.

Hezbollah Israeli war. In this case even crushing the cites with air power could not defeat Hezbollah they had to retreat. Even your own examples you highlight failure, though you don’t notice it. You say they could still fire but I ask how many artillery pieces you could get for the price of a tank that you know can not maneuver. The artillery is more versatile and cost way less. One guy with a radio and an artillery piece far away could do far more damage than that stranded tank with limited ammunition. Let’s not even think about the resources needed to fight them back so they can recover the overpriced hulk.

Armenian Azerbaijan war 2020. In this case drones identified tanks and artillery and missiles killed them all. They never regained or had air power control, so lost the war. The tanks had no use.

So as you see in every case, except WWI, tanks were defeated until air power came in and crushed the opposition. In fact this shows that you need good air power and then with that you only need a lighter armored vehicle with some fighting capability. So all this money on tanks is wasted.

Patton made great use of tanks but we all know Germany had no air power at the time so it really doesn’t count and the tanks he had were lite and fast moving. More like a fighting vehicle of today.

You can see in every case that walkers would be far more effective. If you did not have air superiority, then the walker while carrying anti-tank and antiaircraft weapons could move fast under any condition. It could also hide much better as it doesn’t need roads or paths of any kind. Much harder to hit as it can bob and weave about yet it has the armor protection of .50 cal.

Now you may say the tank, “itself” is better in a battle, but not when you count cost, ability to bring it to the fight, maneuverability and being able to supply the thing with the masses of fuel it requires. All of this is of major importance. The great weapon in the world is of no use if you can’t move it or bring it to bear in the battle and you only have one of them. When you add up all the resources of one tank and then figure how many walkers, that can easily kill tanks, then the hoard of walkers you could unleash per tank is massive. There’s no contest. And the Walker can be used in many multiple roles. Not so much the tank. And if you have air superiority then the tank become close to worthless immediately but the walker still remains useful due to its speed of action.

Let’s not forget the MAIN OVERRIDING PRINCIPAL in all wars. Get there the firstest with the mostest and the ability to deliver 20 walkers per tank is an unbeatable combination. Even better tanks can only be moved to places with large airfields or beachheads, so this supposes control of them. What’s that cost? But walkers need limited air superiority in one area. A fighter escort and a transport to zoom in low level and throw them out the back. Walkers can be thrown out of aircraft with parachutes anywhere. If you got the balls you could low level the transport, depending on the situation, and would not need the fighter. So instead of one tank, that it’s iffy you could land on an airfield of unknown providence, you can land 20 walkers and cause total havoc. Blasting things all over with just electric power first, meaning silent movement, you have 12 hours to trash the rear of your enemy with just electric, not counting the diesel and solar back up. The tank, please, that lumbering behemoth would be lucky to get off the tarmac.

So when you ask,”Which war?”, I’m inclined to say, all of them.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Walkers are future hopium. Develop one, and spend another 20 years figuring out how to keep Marines from destroying them while using them, and it can find its role and spend another 10 years building up the stock. It’s a great idea for our 2060 war.
Light armor (like the LAV-25 or even the AMX-10 RC) fills this role fine.
The tank has a role. That is my point. Most every weapon system is in a game of rock-paper-scissors. Tanks are strong against infantry at range, and weak in melee. Infantry is strong in melee, weak against tanks at range. Air is strong against tanks, weak against infantry. This is the point of combined arms — otherwise, you would just make your army of all the one “super OP invincible thing.”
Also, I’m not sure you have fully groked arty vs tanks. Other than a few dubious “smart” shells, arty doesn’t really destroy tanks well. Arty isn’t that much cheaper than tanks, and the ammo consumption is astounding. Arty takes out tanks by disabling and immobilizing them. They wreck road wheels, they break tracks, they jam mechs, they disable sensors. I’m not saying it’s useless — an immobile tank is a dead tank if it doesn’t get moving again — but it isn’t like “you point arty at the tanks, dial it in and start blasting turrets into the air.”
The Soviets relied on this for their doctrine against NATO, because they intended to overrun and destroy these immobile tanks, or take them out with air (which is way easier when they are immobile in the middle of a field.) The US counter was simply our superior training and supply train, which would hopefully get the tanks moving again before the Soviets could get there.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

“…The tank has a role…”

Sure it does. On the parade ground.

“…I’m not sure you have fully groked arty vs tanks. Other than a few dubious “smart” shells, arty doesn’t really destroy tanks well…”

You have no idea what I’m talking about. You’ve missed the point entirely. I never specified tanks vs, artillery. No I said that if a tank is immobilized it makes poor artillery. I said that attacking troops, or most anything, is more cost effective with artillery and a spotter than tanks per cost, and it is. Tanks can be taken out by aircraft, drones, artillery, etc. Tanks cost too much for what they deliver. If it’s immobilized, it’s of very little use.

“…Most every weapon system is in a game of rock-paper-scissors….”

Sure and I’m saying the main battle tank has no place in any of these as a rock, a paper or scissors, “if” you figure cost per capability. The perfect analogy as I’ve said is the battleship. If you’re willing to stroll up next to them where they can see you, they’re real dangerous. Sure they look awesome, like the tank, but during WWII they mostly kept them in port if others had the capability to attack them because they cost too much and it would be embarrassing to have them sunk.

The battleship had the same problem. They went into great detail on this battleship with this armor fighting that battleship with this other armor and forgot that the purpose of the battleship in the first place was to sink ships and aircraft carriers could do that nicely at less cost. Same with something like a walker. It is perfectly good at moving around fast, attacking troops, supplies, buildings, trucks and even other tanks for less cost and with more versatility.

“…Walkers are future hopium…”

Only true if developed as a weapons system by the big military manufacturers. They would string this out into infinity. If you were to break down the systems needed, mostly two things, the walker itself, (actuators and software) and a heat engine that could burn fuel and garbage, wood, etc. All the rest is off the shelf. Make contest that paid every 6 months to the top 5 winners total 3.5 million with the best making more money. Maybe buy 10 or so of these off the top three winners at 2.5 million. Super car range prices and run them to see what happens. Want to really speed it up, make it pay out every 3 months for rapid acceleration of prototypes and budget it for 2 years so everyone knows the money is there. They could substitute concrete or cast aluminum of the same weight for the prototypes.
Maybe raise it after the first year and start asking for real armor. $20-$30 million a year. Peanuts for defense but good money for someone out there. This would bring in a lot of smart people who were handy building things and let them have a chance to make some cash and advance the art. The armor on these is off the shelf metals. You want to get something that can run around in all sorts of terrain. The tools are mostly there, but they have to be integrated.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Only true if developed as a weapons system by the big military manufacturers.

Anything COTS has a lifespan of about eight minutes in the hands of a grunt.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Just for fun, here’s a translation of a “low temperature” Stirling engine that puts out about 1000 watts

Notice the size is only around 9cm or so and maybe 20cm high. This thing works on low temperature, so less than 130C temperature. Higher temperature designs could be smaller. Put a heat box to burn fuel, raise the temps and you could easily get 3,000 or better out of it.

https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ja-en.en.e96f31d1-63dae003-66dc3c24-74722d776562/www.suction.co.jp/stirling/secomp_jp.html

So a walker full charge at 17.0KW-hrs in less than six hours. A little leeway and you have it charged in 8 hours while sleeping. In the fuel box burn diesel or waste paper, tree debris, etc. Pack tree branches into the burner box and use the diesel to start the fire.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

I was way wrong on the size of that stirling motor. Way wrong, massively wrong. It was a translation error?? or I just screwed up. On the page I saw the cylinder diameter was 80mm for the large one. Not bad except it’s WAY off. I found another page with a different picture. It’s really big. Looking again even on the Japanese page it shows the diameter off by a factor of ten.

http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~khirata/academic/kiriki/yama2/index.html

I should have known that was too good to be true. They raised the pressure and I thought that was how they got the extra power.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

“…Arty isn’t that much cheaper than tanks…”

Cost
US$6.21 million (M1A2 / FY99) Estimated in 2016 as US$8.92 million

M198 US$ 527,337

M777costs around US$700,000

So no.

“… and the ammo consumption is astounding…”

If this isn’t officer thinking, I don’t know what is.

Officer,”Damn those troops, they will shoot up all the ammunition and then where will we be?”

YOU’RE supposed to shoot up the ammunition. That’s what it’s for, to fire at the enemy. HHAHAHA.

The officers don’t see it that way. They see it as taking away their ammunition they are hoarding. If they were doing their jobs they, instead of bitching about shooting the ammunition, they would spend all their time worrying and finding ways to get the soldiers MORE ammunition. But no, better to keep them from shooting up their precious ammunition and bitch about it when they do.

“…figuring out how to keep Marines from destroying them while using them…”

phelps thinks just like an officer.

Stuff like this happens all the time. Officers adamantly push the idea that what they have is the best thing possible or they insist that some harebrained stupidity be fostered onto some weapons system. Neither of which works frequently.

I’ll give a simple, very simple example. M-16. Oh yeah, best, no better, 1000%. Well the bolt in a M-16 is a round piston fitting into a cylinder of roughly the same size. Now pistons in cylinders is what we use to contain compression. DO we need that? And further, any dust or dirt that gets into this piston cylinder small gap means the whole thing seizes up. Look at an AK and it has some loose rails and any dirt can be knocked out of the way. And yet they will not fix this simple, obvious, any fool can see flaw. The M-16 also fires dirty gas exhaust into the operating mechanism. Good idea. Hell no. How to fix that, simple, so simple, brain-dead simple. Make the operating rod PULL instead of blowing gas into the mechanism. Even AK’s don’t get this right. They push on the operating rod instead of pulling. At least the operating rod does not melt down after 300 continuous rounds like the M-16 where the gas tube blows up. Making the gun into a not so efficient club.

The Soviet Union did this a LOT. They would have a great idea and half ass do it. Even though the basic idea would be good someone would screw it up, some bureaucrat (officer/authority figure), and then they would demand that nothing ever be improved. Their five story buildings had great promise for mass production but they made a few simple mistakes that if corrected could have meant vastly better housing but…nope. It’s good enough as is. Same with their cars. Some of their ideas like using cotton waste and resin for cars was excellent. The Trabant that everyone makes fun of could have with some improvement been a decent car at a super low cost, which is what is important if you want basic transportation for all the masses in a poor country.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Officer,”Damn those troops, they will shoot up all the ammunition and then where will we be?”

YOU’RE supposed to shoot up the ammunition. That’s what it’s for, to fire at the enemy. HHAHAHA.

If this is how you are approaching the problem, then I no longer take you seriously and will gladly exit the conversation.
Officers think this way because you have to keep ammunition flowing to the guns. No supply of ammunition (and gasoline to keep the generators going) and your artillery battery is just another thing consuming rations for no gain. The tanks have to be fed gasoline and rounds. The artillery needs to be fed ammunition. The tanks must be resupplied frequently (maybe every other day.) The arty must be supplied constantly (at least daily, preferably several times a day.)
The tank itself is more expensive, yes. The arty gun itself is even more expensive by itself, because it is useless by itself.
The M777 is just a gun. You don’t need weapons. You need weapon systems. You need the gun. You need the deuce and a half to tow it, because without shoot and scoot it’s dead to counter battery. You need five more of those, by the way, because while a single tank can be useful to infantry, a single artillery piece isn’t any use unless you are tasking it as a LOS AT gun.
You also need an ammo section. That’s another four trucks and trailers. You need fire direction. That’s another truck. You need an HQ. That’s another truck. You also need security, which means either a PC or another truck for them. You also need a counter-battery radar, which is another truck plus the towed radar.
That’s six guns, eleven trucks, two trailers and a towed radar to make a battery. You need four tanks to make a tank platoon.
Laugh about the ammunition. What are you going to do with a battery you can’t feed ammo to? Swing it at the enemy like a club?
Oh, and six guns is a light battery. Eight guns is preferable, especially since you often have a gun or two deadlined when a fire mission comes in.

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Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

Ok you have to have trucks for the artillery and a drone, the rest you don’t have with a tank so it is optional, if we’re comparing firepower to tanks. Tanks don’t have all this other stuff you are attaching to the artillery, so it’s not a fair comparison. And once again the goal is to blow up people, emplacements and equipment. Not drive around in the tank. How many rounds does a tank carry, 120mm, 40 rounds.

Artillery

“…PLS with trailer has a haul capacity of 66,000 pounds, a gain of 50% over the LHS system, increasing the number of complete 155mm rounds the system can carry by 52, for a total of 172…”

So 172 rounds sound way better than 40 rounds, and I don’t think the rounds from a tank are near as destructive as those from artillery. And with the artillery piece, you have 430% more rounds per gun for WAY less cost. And tanks can be knocked out by artillery but getting a tank close to artillery is more difficult.

https://www.defencetalk.com/military/forums/t/effectiveness-of-artillery-and-sph-vs-tanks.12659/

“…If this is how you are approaching the problem, then I no longer take you seriously and will gladly exit the conversation.
Officers think this way because you have to keep ammunition flowing to the guns…”

And you are still talking like an officer and focusing on the equipment, like a battleship, as compared to what the point is which is to blow up as much stuff as possible as fast possible. All this talk about how difficult it is to feed artillery is pointless because the artillery has 430% more rounds to shoot. It’s actually higher than that if you add up the weight of a tank and compare that to a truck to carry it and then trucks full of ammo. Surely they can hit something with those 172 rounds or more, as opposed to a tank riding around looking for stuff to shoot at with 40 rounds.

If tanks get intelligence on targets from, whatever, there’s no extra cost to give the same to artillery. A guy with a radio can provide artillery sighting and corrections, and with 430% more ammo it would not be difficult to make a difference compared to 40 rounds for a tank. And we are still not even talking about weight. Somehow the tank just magically appeared in your scenario even though you have to have a C-5, (can only carry 2 tanks), or land it on a beach but I know artillery can be carried by helicopters and smaller planes that can land in many more places. And good luck getting the air force to land a C-5 anywhere where there’s not 100% security, so in any real war you would never have one at all.

I don’t know if they can air drop artillery, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they could. Looked it up, it can. So a ponderous tank that is damn near impossible to airlift in any numbers compared to artillery dropped from a C-130. With the artillery, you have 100% of something compared to…likely a 100% of nothing with tanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsE463O_ouw

And the whole point of me saying what I said was that you can blow up stuff faster, with more rounds and move the artillery faster than you can a main battle tank which is so heavy it can hardly be moved and even if you did has way less ammo and is not better at killing things except…other tanks. Though it seems artillery has no problems killing tanks so, what do you need tanks for?

As I said before, they look great in parades. Maybe we could keep a few hundred running to drive them in parades in the States.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

And tanks can be knocked out by artillery but getting a tank close to artillery is more difficult.

Because there are other tanks between you and the artillery. If the tanks get within a couple of miles of the artillery, the artillery is probably done. (A good crew can lay the gun on with optics and make it into an effective AT gun, but they usually don’t have the training to be good at it. If they even know the tanks are there before the tanks open up one them, of course.)
The artillery has a 20 mile range and requires tons of security. The tank can exceed those 20 miles in 45 minutes and provides (much of) its own security.
Sure, you can airdrop artillery, and also heli-transport it. With a very limited supply of ammunition. Remember how I said that you have to resupply artillery several times a day to be effective? You are either going to be airdropping ammo constantly (which is dangerous for the plane, dangerous for the cargo, dangerous for the arty crew, and requires going around and collecting the airdrops, and that is with air supremacy) or your gun goes dry in a day or two.
An airdropped gun is either dropped very close to the line (meaning it comes into supply in a day or so) or it’s being treated as disposable.
Heavy tanks aren’t my argument. No points for that strawman. I’ve always been of the opinion that tanks are for supporting infantry, not tank destroying. LAV-25s are as transportable as artillery, in all forms, and are easier to resupply.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

“…Because there are other tanks between you and the artillery…”

Sigh…no…no…no. Because a Humvee or even better, a walker can carry antitank weapons that can kill off the tank. Probably non-existent tank because it’s so damn heavy they can’t get it to the war in the first place. And of course there’s always guys with radios to tell the artillery someone is coming.

“…If the tanks get within a couple of miles of the artillery…”

Sorry, can’t help it, I’m sure you know the reference.

“If”.

“…I said that you have to resupply artillery several times a day to be effective?…”

Let’s see the artillery with a load of 172 rounds, and we’re well below the load range of one tank, is somehow totally disadvantaged compared to the magic, and probably nonexistent tank, with 40 rounds of ammo. And large amounts of tank ammo is mostly only good for killing other tanks, but artillery, well you can blast anything to pieces with it.

“…Heavy tanks aren’t my argument. No points for that strawman…”

So now you say that. You know good and well I’ve been talking about heavy tanks the whole entire time. Naming them, their weights. It’s not like you could miss it. Could it be you’re losing the argument so you’re trying to pretend that,”well I never meant that in the first place”. No of course not. You would never do anything like that. I’m sure. And note a LAV-25 is not a tank which you’ve argued for. A Strykers is barely one. No matter what, you have to have some heavy weapons like artillery. Or, maybe not. If you had a mass, a huge amount of Walkers, each with machine guns and anti-tankish type missiles for tanks, vehicles and bunkers (HESH round maybe. That’s what the British use.) then you could possibly do away with all of the other combined with air power.

I’m not against LAV-25s or Strykers but I still say something like a Walker with artillery would be ideal for a superfast strike force. More bang for the buck than most anything.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

You’ve chosen, “don’t take me seriously.”

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

Napoleon said, “God is on the side with the best artillery”

There’s a great article on artillery at this contractor’s site that makes shells. They are working on ram jet artillery shells with ranges of around 150 kilometers. Excellent idea. They make base bleed that double range now. They talk about the number of rounds fired by the Russians and how devastating it is. Not too long and worth reading if this sort of stuff interest anyone.

https://www.nammo.com/story/base-bleed-and-rocket-assist-2/

phelps
1 year ago

Demonic looking statue placed on NYC courthouse.

Not just demonic, but specifically evoking Semitic Baals. The horns and tentacles are reminiscent of Moloch in particular, and the “judicial lace” on the front is almost exactly the same pattern as the beards depicted on Babylonian baals. You often see the same sort of wavy tentacles on Babylonian baals, as well. See the Baal Hammon attached.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

Exactly.
Some people don’t like Mathis but he is right about the Phoenicians.
The Israelites were infiltrated and co-opted early on and that is one of the main reasons there are so many Jewish connections.

Ghost Who Walks
Ghost Who Walks
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

This is very clear and passes the common sense test as well. All those prophets berating the Israelites for taking foreign wives and accepting their ways! This has always been their modus operandi. Even with distant trade areas, the Phonecians would establish an outpost, then infiltrate and gain control of the rulers or their opposition. Always support and promote the most corrupt, least competent people. Nation wrecking at its finest! Finally, today you can accuse “The Jews,” or Jesuits, Illuminati, Black Mobility, Elitists, conspirators, Khazarian Mafia, Marxists, globalists, or whomever, and you’ll be describing the same people.
That said, it’s best to say, “Jews,” because 1.) People don’t know who the heck those others are. 2.) Today, most of them do identify as Jews.
The history is important, though.
And didn’t Eustace Mullins finger the Canaanites as responsible.
Phonecians we’re merchants when Israelites we’re goat herders. Phoenician merchants would visit your town and if the men were out working, they’d be happy to take the women and children and sell them at the next town.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Ghost Who Walks
1 year ago

The whole neighborhood over there was like that and the children of Israel mixed and absorbed some of all of them over the centuries.
That region was supposed to be cleansed by the Israelites but even Joshua decided to let them take some of the natives as slaves after being tricked into thinking they were from far away.
He should have told them that his treaty was with people who lived far away and didn’t apply to their nearby cities, failing that he should have let the other cities wipe them out for making peace with Israel but instead went and saved them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

My wife and I were talking about this. What if Cabal’s various human factions were aligned with different groups of demons, each competing to one up each other. Each human faction in cabal may get a demon or groups of demons assigned to them. Then those demons, being demons, might use their humans to try to one-up another demon’s human faction. That might explain some of the odd, counterproductive actions you’ve noted. It’s one group sticking it to another group. And Satan is at the top, having the time of his life pitting each group against the others in some bizarre, sadistic Glengarry Glen Ross type competition. My wife asked what the demons would earn if their group outperformed the other groups, then said, “Maybe they get to attend the next child sacrifice.” The point is, we are speculating about things we can only dimly guess at. But I will guarantee that statue was instigated by a demon to stick it to God and whatever angels have to work that area.

Highangelhell
Highangelhell
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

Funny..i woke up this morning with a similar idea. Different alien factions control the different, ‘cabals’ and they are playing a little chess game from afar. For control of? Gold? Water? For fun?

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

I’ve been reading this crazy book,”All About the Disk Aircraft of the Third Reich – Nazi Antigravity Aerospace Craft Weapons Development Programs” and they pointed out documents about Roswell have some very strange stuff in them. They say possible alien but they also say that they called in the paperclip Germans to analyze them AND they totally censor a whole page that talks about a “leaf book” that was in the craft. Hmmm…the notion the book is making is that something in the craft made them call in the Germans. They point out that bringing people you just had a major war with to show top secret stuff doesn’t make much sense unless you think it was related to Germans somehow. It could be that the SS moved all this ufo type craft they were working on somewhere after the war and were flying these things around. As I have said repeatedly, there are many devices that show anti-gravity or more accurately “Inertia” type forces that can push against the universe without expelling gas or matter like a jet or rocket. Here are some links covering this in detail.

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-11-28-2021/#comment-378441

Knowing this, a perfect cover to keep people from thinking about this is to push the “aliens did it” story. The whole time the US is making these things. This would also account for the seemingly total incompetence of Lockheed and Boeing to make rockets. I’ve complained about constantly. I don’t see how it’s even possible for them to waste $40 billion on this stupid SLS rocket. If rockets were inferior stupid things compared to Inertia drives, then why put money in them. Siphon off all the cash flow ($40 billion for the SLS rocket) into some other defense project.

Even though this weird Nazi ufo book has a lot of hocus pocus in it, they also have drilled down every single bit of info they can find, and there’s a good deal of evidence that the Nazis were working on vortex and high frequency type stuff. And oddly enough this is the same sort of stuff that the patents for anti-gravity that the Navy engineer used. I saw an interview with him and he talked about exactly that.

I think all these ufo’s are built by us. It may very well be that somebody in the military handed these over to corporations to hide it from Congress and now “someone” is flying these, probably limited, prototypes around gas-lighting everyone that they are aliens.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

It’s possible that the NAZIs still exist in hidden bases and are operating some UFOs.
Think about Operation Highjump and the rumors of secret bases in South America.

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Highangelhell
Highangelhell
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

Maybe it’s like a brain to cybercuthulu interface you put on your head like a helmet?

phelps
1 year ago

Homosexuals must no longer be chaste in order to lead Godly lives, [Church of England] Bishop of London says.

Clicking through…

 the Rt. Hon and Rt. Rev. Sarah Mullaly 

Well, there’s your problem, right there!
1 Timothy 2:

12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

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Mr Twister
Mr Twister
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

In the UK, 92% of Primary School “teachers” are women (60% at Secondary)

UK spends most per child in the sorld on education at ~£16k per annum per child, and ranked around 26th in the world for education levels.

Quelle Surprise.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

Church of Sweden survived 500yrs.

It took Female Bishops 10yrs to destroy it.

phelps
1 year ago

Study finds US would run out of long-range munitions in 1 week in China hot war.

The implication being, of course, that China would not run out of ships.
Should have never decommissioned the battleships. Sending the Wisconsin and the New Jersey would turn that whole strait into a turkey shoot. We’re looking at actual surface action for the first time in 70 years, and we don’t have a single surface action group centered around a BB.

TRX
TRX
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

A few years ago I hit the US Navy’s official web site looking for something, and their main page said the Navy’s #1 mission was to “support diversity”, and then some stuff about “global warming” (that was before the lefties started trying to have it both ways by callins it “climate change.) and “saving rain forests.”

The US Navy isn’t *about* ships or fighting or any of that icky stuff nowadays. They have a far more important mission now.

phelps
Reply to  TRX
1 year ago

I agree. We are about to get what we speced for.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

Or build a large fleet of Cruisers and subs.
Extended range planes for the carriers.

The future of warfare is cheap, low tech, high speed systems in large numbers.
A few high tech system may be a force multiplier.

phelps
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

The thing is, we’ve forgotten what BBs were (last) for. Getting hit.
Cruisers carry big guns, and if we wanted a cruiser with 16″ guns, we could. The difference between a battleship and a cruiser is that when the cruiser starts getting hit, it’s done. When the battleship starts getting hit, it’s just getting started. Subs are even more brittle, relying entirely on stealth. The Chinese don’t give a shit about stealth, and will be actively pinging everything. They know that we already know where they are — they don’t lose anything by doing the equivalent of lighting up the sky with flares.
Our ships are going to get hit. Quantity has a quality all its own, and China has quantity. What we don’t have is a ship to put the flag on that can get hit and still maintain command and control while fighting back.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

China’s fleet is made of pure chinesium.
We have to make sure we can get off the first shots and shoot down any missles they send our way.
But the age of survivable heavy equipment is over, the enemy will just slap a nuke on a hypersonic missile or send a swarm of of hypersonic missiles at the main target if it ever gets in range.
Any command and control needs standoff distance so you need ever longer range communications and striking power.
Anything without fantastic range needs to be cheap and plentiful so that losing a few doesn’t hurt that much.
It also needs to be high speed to close the distance with the enemy while still alive.
Active sonar pings make a great target if you have the range, you can try to limit the damage with towed arrays but that just means that the enemy only needs to keep firing torpedoes at the sonar sources until you are either using the onboard sonar and losing ships or you are blind and they can close in for the kill.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

“chinesium”! I knew things were bad but now that the Chinese have chinesium, WE’RE DOOMED I TELL YOU. DOOMED.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

Chinesium is the most entropic element known to man.
It disintigrates naturally at a pace that assures the item constructed using it will appear to last.
Any trauma applied to it will cause instant and complete failure.

phelps
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

Yup. Chinesium has the curious quality of appearing to be perfectly servicable until the moment it is actually needed, at which point it fails in the most ridiculous way.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

HAHA. I have personally experienced the effects of Chinesium. It’s devastating.

phelps
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

Sure. Say we get 75% kill rates with our missiles (unheard of before, even with cheaply built shit targets.) Even then, we don’t have enough missiles to take out all the Chinesium.
We have to be perfect with every shot. The Chinese only have to get lucky every so often. That’s a recipe for defeat.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  phelps
1 year ago

That’s why we need to shift to having enough missiles and other weapons and platforms to do it.

Quantity is the answer, not quality.
We have gone too far in the direction of quality and need to return to quantity.

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phelps
Reply to  Farcesensitive
1 year ago

Agreed. Our fleet is too small for what we expect of it (which is more than we SHOULD expect of it.) We need guns, we need ammo, and we need to find people we can train to use them. I don’t have any hope for any of that.

Corn Pop
Corn Pop
1 year ago

Vox post about Clot Adams asking how we knew to avoid the shots is funny.
I don’t know Scott. How about you can’t vaccinate against a coronavirus?
That was settled science for decades until the shots started rolling out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Corn Pop
1 year ago

So funny because they never have been able to isolate said COVID 19 virus to begin with so how is it that their is a Vax for it?

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

“…never have been able to isolate said COVID 19 virus to begin with…”

Not true. Why do you say things that are blatant lies?

teo toon
teo toon
Reply to  Sam J.
1 year ago

It is pre-COVID science.

Macaque Mentality
Macaque Mentality
Reply to  Corn Pop
1 year ago

This.

Highangelhell
Highangelhell
Reply to  Corn Pop
1 year ago

If you travelled back in time to ancient Rome and located the guy in charge of determining the sale price of the new crop of slaves by inspecting their teeth, genitals, and buttholes…he would look exactly like doctor Faouchie.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Corn Pop
1 year ago

Maybe he would like to buy a bridge?

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Corn Pop
1 year ago

Yes, this was easy, with the scientific method. You didn’t even need the “global depopulation list” angle and related inferences, that, while true, shut off normie brains.l with the “conspiracy theory” shut-down function.

1. Hypothesis: Effective COVID vaccine can be produced in a year or less.
Refutation: No effective SARS vaccine after 17 years of research. Covid allegedly shares 72% of genome with with SARS. No explanation as to why the different 28% makes effective e vaccine more likely.
Conclusion: effective vaccine unlikely in one year

2. Hypothesis: Effective COVID vaccine possible ever
Refutation: No effective corona virus vaccine ever for humans or animals. Coronaviruses mutate too frequently. No eviidencr COVID mutates any less quickly.
Conclusion: effective vaccine unlikely ever

3. Hypothesis: Safe COVID vaccine in one year
Refutation: in 17 years, all SARS vaccines – including mRNA tech- unsafe due to ADE. No explanation of how COVID is different and won’t result in ADE.
Conclusion: COVID vaccines as likely as SARS to cause ADE. Up to 20% of vaccinated dead on rexposure to Covid. (This seems to not be happening ).

4. Hypothesis: Safe COVID vaccine ever
Refutation: No safe human or animal coronavirus vaccine. All have ADE problems, including cat coronavirus killing 100% of vaccinated cats in exposure. No explanation of how COVID is different from all other coronavirus.
Conclusion: COVID vaccines will causes ADE like all prior attempts at coronavirus vaccines

5. Hypothesis: mRNA tech is safe.
Refutation: Merck (least felonious pharma corp) stopped mRNA research because they found that effective doses were always toxic. No previous mRNA tech ever approved. No explanation of why COVID is different such that mRNA won’t be toxic this time.
conclusion: COVID shots will be toxic.

6. Hypothesis: mRNA vaccine-produced spike proteins are safe
Refutation: in long Covid patients, as early as summer 2020, it was known that the spike proteins were causing cardiovascular damage. In December 2020 a study showed spiked proteins in isolation crossing the blood-brain barrier in mice. Explaining the neurological effects and loss of smell/taste in long Covid. Some attempt was made to say why the vaccine spikes were different. BUT the Pfeizer study specifically did not check for whether their spikes created the same long term damage as Covid disease spikes. Specifically the clinical trial description of adverse effects- section 8- had under the heading “Cardiovascular/Death” for possible side effects “Not applicable.” That is, if someone had heart damage following the vaccine or DIED, it was excluded from the study as not possibly caused by vaccine and irrelevant even though it was known that Covid was usual in being a respiratory illness that caused cardiovascular disease.
Conclusion: vaccinated people would be essentially giving themselves long Covid without giving their lungs a shot at fighting it off first. Cardiovascular damage in vaccinated would outpaced unvaccinated and not be accounted for in clinical trial data.

7. Hypothesis: Making foreign proteins on your cell surface is safe
Refutation: seems like a way to trigger autoimmune disease. Only response is ‘no it totally can’t we swear.’
Conclusion: Autoimmune disease seems possible. let other people try it first

8. mRNA totally won’t be written back into your genome. Producing spike proteins forever
Refutation: The claim was that it wasn’t “designed” to be written back in. But something like 8% of the human genome is viral dna, so there a natural mechanism. Also retroviruses in humans exist, including one that is asymptotic and therefore never tested for, providing one possible mechanism.
Conclusion: reverse transcription is theoretically possible. let other people try it first

I would have needed solid evidence refuting my hyptheses on all eight of those fronts in order to even consider the vaxx. So far none has been forthcoming except that ADE doesn’t seem as immediately bad as I expected.

A million thanks to the community here for the knowledge base and links all along this crazy awful journey.

Ultra
1 year ago

Here’s an instance of 17 that I noticed in the news today related to that ChatGPT AI. Maybe it means the chatbot is a Cabal op? Or something to do with Stanford University?
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/01/25/survey-17-of-stanford-students-used-chatgpt-ai-on-final-exams/

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

Your comment about how people in surveillance / cabal can use both their secretly acquired information about a potential romantic interest and years of acting to insinuate themselves into their interest’s life takes me back to the Eyes Wide Shut discussion from a few days ago. I’m a Kubrick fan, but I never liked Eyes Wide Shut. I saw it when it came out and it made no sense to me. The dialogue sounded wooden. The characters, and that means every single character, acts in ways that doesn’t match the theme of what I assumed was a movie about a failing marriage. The movie bugged me because it never made sense to me. Either Kubrick failed, or I didn’t understand what he was trying to tell me.

Then I began reading this site. I looked around the world and thought about how Caputo wrote a Hollywood pedo scene into his Godfather novel. Then I thought about the BBC’s Saville child abuse revelations. Then I remembered how Epstein’s pedo island was lambasted as a tin foil hat conspiracy theory for years. I started looking at the world differently. That brings me back to Eyes Wide Shut. If you watch it with the idea that Nicole Kidman’s character is in cabal and probably had been since childhood: and that she has manipulated and deceived her non-cabal husband, played by Tom Cruise, for years, then suddenly a lot of the dialogue, characters, and scenes make sense. The movie really comes together into a cohesive story if you assume the plot is about cabal’s desire for Kidman and Cruise’s daughter and Kidman and cabal’s plan to either bring Cruise into cabal or to compromise him or, if those fails, to kill him in order to remove him as an implement to getting their hands on the little girl, the entire movie falls into place. Every scene makes sense. Every event Cruise experiences, every conversation he has, everything his wife does not fits together in a logical, cohesive whole. You see Kidman’s fear of losing her husband, who she does love. You see her aching need and her internal struggle as she is faced with the need to reveal her true self to her husband and her fear about what that will do to her relationship with him.

In other words, it’s everything you wrote about today. Finally, about ten years ago I dug into Reddit boards about adultery in an attempt to help a friend deal with his wife who had cheated on him and then left him. I was amazed that so many people said that the reason they cheat is because having a hidden secret, something they got over on their spouse, made their orgasms better – both with their lovers and with their spouse. Imagine a man who thinks sex with his wife is out of this world because she loves him, but it’s actually because she did a threesome with his two best friends and the fact she got that over on him is what makes her hot. Just sharing secret smirks with his friends when they are around her husband gets her juices flowing. This appalled me when I read people confessing to things like this on Reddit. And that’s what I imagine all those cabal people must feel – an intense, almost sexual, pleasure of controlling and manipulating people, of being in the know and getting something over on the rest of us. And that is, in my opinion, what Kubrick was expressing in Eyes Wide Shut.

map
map
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

That’s modeling Cabal behavior as play for the young, like teaching “prepping” as an advanced form of camping.

Highangelhell
Highangelhell
Reply to  map
1 year ago

Right. Like how they’ve got our little girls dressing up like little hookers and practising shacking their ass and exposing them to graphic sexual degeneracy at every opportunity via “music”, video…from tranny story hour to little subtle things in adds or a spike collar on a teddy bear.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  map
1 year ago

Hunters-Gatherer Men trained their children through Play. The older the child the more skilled the Play. Until as Adults Hunting is as instinctive as breathing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

If you’re this interested, read the short novel that Kubrick based his film on:

Dream Story by Arthur Schnitzler, written and set in 1920s Vienna.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

Re: Arizona lawmakers push bill to make Bitcoin legal tender.
Article I Section 10
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;
——————————————–
Re: Tractor Supply chicken feed reportedly causing egglaying to stop, board has ties to WEF, Jeffrey Epstein.
That’s not all – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-qcqB8fuyA

TRX
TRX
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

That old Constitution is pretty much a dead issue nowadays; if the Supremes deign to heat a Constitutional case nowadays, they just “re-interpret” the Constitution to support whatever leftist cause they’re backing at the time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

It’s a simple plan really. No more producing your own eggs and meat. The temp just went up on the pot

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

In a weird way, I am extremely lucky to have reached out to an Israeli musical super-nerd myself, without any prompting at all, who herself seems to be the (mindbogglingly naive and oblivious) target of lifelong surveillance, suppression, sabotage, exploitation, etc. We are both extremely lucky. And I can tell that we weren’t brought together in some Cabal arrangement because every indication — from the mundane to the incredibly weird, from the direct to the indirect, from the technological to the social to the psychological, almost every fucking day, usually multiple times a day — is that Cabal wants to undermine our relationship, not secure it. She is surrounded by close friends and family who are Covidian doctors, school psychologists, astrophysicists, programming nerds, Unit 8200 alumni, literal Mossad, major corporate law firm partners, the descendants of an elite musical bloodline mixed up in an even more hardcore subcult of Theosophy, Kabbalah witches, and — my favorite — the author of a novel about “coincidence makers” which is basically a romanticized simplification of what time-travelling “Space Jews” from the future might/must be doing. And…she has no fucking clue. Totally innocent. Ever seen What Dreams May Come, where Robin Williams dies and has to retrieve his dead wife from Hell? It feels like I have to first pluck my future wife from a mostly-pleasant-from-her-perspective living Hell in order to even begin life together. All while extricating myself from my own living Hell of being surrounded by Surveillance, although that has gotten MUCH easier for me personally the last few months, because they are now almost entirely passive, in fact, they mostly look scared of me, now that I have a sense of what’s going on and an eye for them and a willingness to talk shit to them if they try to get cute. I think I wound up in a perfect rare Pinko slot, one unguarded by Cabal, and they don’t want me there, and yet, there is nothing they can really do about it. I seem to have God on my side, too. Hmmm. What might that make me, as far as special possibilities go?

Highangelhell
Highangelhell
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

A race mixer. Not to be trusted.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Highangelhell
1 year ago

If its for love. Why?

2Voss
2Voss
1 year ago

FWIW there’s fuckery afoot in your comment section. Yesterday, anyway. After comments went up, was unable to thumbs up/down any cmt, nor respond. Funny how that works, innit?

EricTheAwful
EricTheAwful
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

I think “they” are messing with your site again. I get the briefs in RSS, but prefer to open them in a browser tab. At least twice in the last couple of weeks, the link wouldn’t open as if your site were down. And another time or two, I got the WordPress login page.

I assume your site and blog run on different platforms. If the briefs aren’t in RSS in the morning, I’ll go to your site. Sometimes the main page will load, but the blog won’t. Or maybe we’re all just looking for our fix at the same time and there are too many connections, which is the error I got this morning.

TRX
TRX
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

I keep getting sent to an “admin panel” that wants me to choose a language from a drop-down box. I have to back space in the URL box to get to the blog.

GrahamAnon
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

I’ve been getting the Admin page, the 404, etc. Go away to another site and read for a bit, come back and your site loads OK! Almost feels there is a redirect going on on the server? Too many HTTP connections, or Server Side addon fault which resets after a certain period? Sometimes server logs will give a clue!

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  GrahamAnon
1 year ago

I see this too, but it appears to me that it’s happening at the same time as you are approving comments because my comments will get approved at the same time once the site becomes responsive. May be something as simple as the software is blocking new comments when you are in the mode of approving them. Just a guess.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

It seems to be on most of the time and just down for short periods.

Mr Twister
Mr Twister
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
1 year ago

I see a comment “awaiting for approval” several up from this

Aurini
1 year ago

Do you remember Section 31 from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine?
They were a shady intel organization with advanced tech that claimed to represent the interests of the Federation, who recruited Dr Bashir for several missions (a character who is an open-minded genius, naive, non-ambitious, friendly, conceited, playful), but of whom there was no evidence that they existed. The only proof was the individual who recruited Bashir, and there was no evidence that he’d ever existed.
If you’re free one evening and looking for something to watch, I’d be genuinely curious to your take on the episodes depicting this org (I’d stick to DS9, I think they showed up again in later series, but only because the later writers were desperate for plot threads). DS9 was the ‘realpolitik’ Star Trek series, which showed that even the good guys have to do bad things at times. A Federation CIA would have made perfect sense – but that’s not what Section 31 was. They operated outside of the knowledge and approval of the command structure, and their goals were never made fully clear.

EricTheAwful
EricTheAwful
Reply to  Aurini
1 year ago

I think Section 31 also appeared on Enterprise, but yes, DS9 was the peak of Star Trek. Best series by far. Razor Fist has a “Depths of DS9” on UATV, which is pretty good.

I didn’t know you read this site, Aurini. The comments here often have surprising visits.

Farcesensitive
Reply to  EricTheAwful
1 year ago

Yes, they were involved with genetically enhancing humans to create supersoldiers.
The Klingons stole the research and attempted to use it on themselves but it produced a plague that escaped and caused massive lockdowns and exterminations in an attempt to control it.
They were threatening war to get revenge on the Federation so S31 kidnapped the doctor from the Enterprise and sent him to help the Klingons find a cure.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Aurini
1 year ago

Section 31 developed a “morphogenic” virus that sickened and weakened an enemy race, the Founders.

Another science fiction show, Stargate SG-1, showed something similar, also long before the pandemic:

the Aschen have spent a decade sterilizing the population of Earth under the guise of a pro-health vaccine.
https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/Aschen_vaccine

Generally speaking, I wouldn’t recommend either of these shows if you only want to learn about Cabal machinations. A point in favor, though:

The main enemy in DS9 is the Dominion, comprised of its genetically engineered soldiers (the Jem’Hadar), its diplomats and functionaries (the Vorta) and their royalty, the shapeshifting Founders, who are everyone and noone – so the real life “powerful” individuals you see on TV and that people debate on and on are only like the Vorta, but the real life Founders are either unknown or just seemingly unimportant people.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

Regarding the Postal service Truck of Death™,
I was watching this video of a man with a baby in the street and the police trying to take him down, and laughed at 1:05.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMrctFjFh3M

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

Postal Truck of Death My god get a load of the fat cop running down the perp

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

The fat cop was funny, and pathetic.

Downtick for “My god”… oh my gawd!! oh my gawd!! oh my gawd!!

SteveRogers42
SteveRogers42
Reply to  Anonymous
1 year ago

Fat cop. Can’t grapple. Can’t run. Pathetic.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  SteveRogers42
1 year ago

Donuts are a disaster for Police. Should instead have Lentil soup, Rye Bread.
And other healthy options instead.

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Farcesensitive
1 year ago

Vladimir Putin is negotiating with the Taliban to purchase the billions of dollars of military equipment Joe Biden left behind in Afghanistan. Reportedly Viktor Bout, who we just released, had armed the Taliban way back, and is using his connections to make it happen.”

And now you know why Brandon released him.
10% for the Big Guy.

Q’s plan is really starting to look like a Russian operation which doesn’t have any intent to Make America Great Again.

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Lowell Houser
Lowell Houser
1 year ago

The new ridiculous normal on Youtube involving guns…..
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ubtVs_rD7cI

disenchantedscholar
disenchantedscholar
1 year ago

Just some datapoints but you’re more spot-on about this than you know.
I was targeted by guys who’d want to date me after mentioning random interests I only told like, one person a few weeks earlier, or just an internet search. Honeypots are COMMON, possibly the norm. I can only imagine how skewed tinder matches etc are because most women on those sites are sockpuppets. But they even tried chucking like multiple guys of different races at me to see which would ‘stick’….. in the same five minutes, sitting next to each other. I used to think it was a bet, now I think test. Joke’s on them cos I never fell for it, which disturbed them, knowing one rando thing I like isn’t true love, like a girl says in 500 days of Summer. “Just because she likes the same weird things you do, doesn’t make her your soulmate.” It was like they’d read a file on me and I was offended by it, before an awareness. One teacher actually had the hots for me (told me off for sitting away from him once based on availability of chairs, told me off in front of the whole class like a scorned lover, got odd looks) and told me to go to a certain Marxist demo (about tuition fees), like straight up TOLD me. Obviously I didn’t and scoffed at him but looking back he clearly thought of it like a date. Knew it was a setup for something, so they are like, spoiling conservatives on running for office as legit by framing them, likely with location photos, to seem controlled ops. The same guy also knew about a tooth problem before I emailed him for an extension on a paper, and believed me without question, no idea how he knew (had only phoned my mother prior). He noted random facts about me like being left-handed, just openly started talking to me about my body language in front of the whole class, nowadays someone would report him. Kept bumping into him at the weirdest times in random corridors that were usually dead (I mean Hiroshima dead) and peak weird, I was in an anonymous dating study he was secretly running (post-study briefing) asking me questions about scenarios I’d be interested in (you know, for science). Like if I’d try online dating (NO) and what I was looking for in a man and weird inkblot type questions I think related to personality like a psych eval? The other person chatting through this computer for the study (my teacher) was leading this conversation like a planned list with Who Knows, I was just tired and confused so it wasn’t me. He also tried to make me jealous of the other person in the chat, who was also running it (LOL, I don’t get jealous). I had to complete studies for credits but weirdly, nobody else on my course participated in this ‘dating’ study or even knew of its existence when I asked around, so I believe it was only on MY intranet to sign up for and nobody else. They also had huge blocks of available time slots, so why no other people? Not ONE other person on a 200 strong course did this damn study. That is just not possible. So you’re right but it’s weirder in academia. Same guy loudly told our class later he’d “just discovered sexting” get this – with a woman he met online!…. which I’d never heard of at the time since I don’t own a smartphone. Corruption angle? More jealousy plays? Who knows? They def have files because this guy (aside from the politics) was my type to a tee, just very obviously throwing himself in my vicinity waiting for my flicker of interest, like he’d stand right next to me if I was wearing perfume so he could SMELL me (I could hear it, the deliberate inhale sound when he thought I wasn’t paying attention, but how did he know at the start of class where to stand? He knew the days I was wearing perfume v not ahead of time) and this guy never told me off even when I tried to be a bitch as a test. I once threw a small tantrum mid-class just once (I was hormonal k) and he apologised so… whatever that was. Wore a mini-skirt to class once and he stood within a foot of me and refused to budge the whole class despite me sitting halfway back in the room, like the perfume thing, he kept glancing down at my bare thighs pretending to shuffle his papers… that were blank. I saw him pick them up as an excuse, it was blank office paper. The other girls found this hilarious because we’d all noticed his behaviour and assumed it was an age thing, they wore hot outfits too (we’d agreed) and he didn’t notice them at all it was weird, if anything he seemed annoyed by them. re the dating ‘study’: The other woman running it knew I was smart because she conducted a reaction time maths test (IQ tell, cannot be faked) when I broke her computer and she looked annoyed and said “that’s never happened before.” I asked if I should do a second trial of the study on another computer and suddenly it wasn’t necessary? Lots of weirdness in supposed studies like, do you need the data or not? At other times, been targeted by bus weirdos who were obviously told to befriend me looking back and prevent me from meeting other people. Told me to go on specific meds like the Pill, very creepy and sudden. Felt like being groomed as an arranged bride or something so you are right. 100% they set people up probably like a modelling agency is rich guy tinder. They pre-select then pre-arrange a meeting, the photos are likely the future spouse testing to see if they like the look of them in person before the OK to proceed. These people are eugenicists. It might be a primary aim of surveillance.
However, that is the dream of many women, that a man would show up Mr Perfect. Many men too want Dream Waifu. Follow the wives, Q said. I think Hollywood inserts these soulmate twin flame tropes into films so people accept it, like Disney, a pre-programming programming when we’re too young to know anything. Like teen boys thinking porn is real. There’s also proven remote viewing studies. Personally I find the tactic of lovebombing creepy even before I knew the official term. I know the farmer thing is true of High IQ family lines, why else test us? Some of my relatives were in MENSA and told to take the test. Legally, the coercion vitiates consent (deceit negates consent by vitiation) plus stalking law. I’ve also had weird questions from doctors like they wanted to pad out a psych file like why not do this or that? They could also be doing weird voodoo stuff to the person, cannot rule it out. I’ve heard things.