News Briefs – 09/21/2022

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Follow Don Jr on twitter here.

“Make sure those you follow talk about the surveillance, because everyone who is in the game knows. Make them either damage the machine by saying it, or reveal they are part of it by staying silent. Demanding our side talk about the surveillance is really the closest to a Xanatos gambit our side has.”

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DFT – Germany May See Gas Shortages If Winter Is Colder

DFT – Nouriel Roubini Predicts Severe Recession At End Of 2022

DFT – US DOE To Release 10 Million Barrels More From Strategic Reserve

DFT – Coinshares Introduces Algorithmic Trading Platform

DFT – Beyond Meat Suspends COO For Biting Man’s Nose

New footage shows a forensics team working for allies of former President Trump spent hours handling voting equipment in a Georgia county elections office on Jan. 7, 2021, two months after the 2020 presidential election and the day after riots at the U.S. Capitol over the results.

Bret Baier wanted to rescind Fox News’ decision to call Arizona for Biden in 2020 and wrote in an email, ‘The Trump campaign was really pissed,’ book says.

Judge Raymond Dearie, the special master overseeing the seizure of documents from Mar-a-Lago, said to lawyers for President Donald Trump that if they don’t make a case that any of the documents were declassified, he would determine that they’re classified.

Former President Donald Trump‘s legal team on Monday night resisted the request set forth by Special Master Judge Raymond Dearie that they detail exactly how documents were declassified, in order to preserve a defense against a “subsequent indictment.” More:

In a filing to the court-appointed special master that Trump requested, his attorneys said the “time and place” for making such a disclosure would come in a motion in a criminal trial as an effort to recover his property.

‘Otherwise, the Special Master process will have forced the Plaintiff to fully and specifically disclose a defense to the merits of any subsequent indictment without such a requirement being evident in the District Court’s order,” trump’s legal team wrote.

A federal appeals court has reversed a lower court ruling ordering the Republican National Committee to comply with a subpoena from the House Jan. 6 committee, poking the Democrat-led investigation for vacillating on key issues and acknowledging there were “important and unsettled constitutional questions” about whether the panel is lawfully constituted.

Peter Navarro: ‘Everything’ Mitch McConnell ‘did was designed to screw Donald Trump.’

Trump to face sexual battery suit under new ‘survivors’ law. This is that kooky woman E. Jean Carroll, with the short hair, who basically retold a whole scene from the TV show Sex and the City, with Trump as the male character and her as the female character, claiming it was real and he assaulted her like that. But she was totally bipolar in the interviews and nutty beyond belief, so she may actually think the TV show scene was her memory. Now she is going to try and do this again, and hope she gets a Cabal jury.

A conservative Republican senator who is convinced that the Arizona Department of Child Safety is facilitating the global sex trafficking of children removed from negligent parents called the police on one of his GOP colleagues, alleging that she threatened his life.

Migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard sue DeSantis, allege the relocations violated their Fourth and 14th Amendment rights and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

DeSantis’ office hits back after class action suit from migrants, reveals ‘consent form’ they allegedly signed.

A Republican request for documents related to Joe Biden’s family’s “international business schemes,” including Hunter Biden’s business deals that may be influencing U.S. foreign policy, was dismissed by House Democrats on Tuesday.

The U.S. Senate does not have to release its full report detailing the Central Intelligence Agency’s interrogation and detention program following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks under common law access, a federal judge ruled Thursday. There is no FOIA for congressional records.

Fire Alarm?:

Deaths in Scotland spike to almost 10% above average.

Deaths due to an “irregular heartbeat” are likely to be “one of the reasons” more people than usual have been dying this year – with the number well above average so far. They are getting warmer.

An Alabama-based embalmer and licensed funeral director has noticed “a change of condition of bodies since the roll-out of mRNA vaccines,” including the huge increase in people with blood clots, the strange nature of these blood clots, and patients who have died of cancer without any of the tell-tale signs, such as hair loss and emaciation.

A former vice president for the EcoHealth Alliance, a major funder of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, claims that his organization “developed” SARS-CoV-2 through gain-of-function research that makes viruses more dangerous.

Former White House spokesman bombshell book claim: Fauci laughed at ‘American rubes’ that ‘he could get people to believe anything.’

An influential expert panel is recommending for the first time that all American adults under the age of 65 be screened for anxiety disorders so treatment can be begun for them.

“Cheers” actor Woody Harrelson told Bill Maher the “last people” he would trust with his own health is “Big Pharma and Big Government.”

Uganda declared an outbreak of Ebola after a case of the relatively rare Sudan strain was confirmed in the country.

Biden on Tuesday endorsed legislation to disclose super PAC donors, arguing that so-called dark money erodes public trust.

Critics rip PolitiFact fact-checking organization for insisting Biden anti-oil activism didn’t cause gas price spike.

Arizona State Senator accuses Dept. of Child Safety of facilitating global sex trafficking ring after 550 children go missing. This migration must create a lot of children with no paper trail, with 2 million contacts with BP.

NY Gov. Hochul caught in huge lie after claiming she was ‘not aware’ company that landed $637 million no-bid contract was campaign donor.

Gays against groomers permanently deplatformed from PayPal and Venmo.

“The average household will pay about 17% more this winter to heat their property, reaching a 10-year high of about $1,200 per home, according to a forecast from the nonprofit National Energy Assistance Directors Association.”

Flashback, 2018 – Businesses with ties to Sen. Claire McCaskill’s (D-MO) husband have received $131 million in federal government subsidies since McCaskill’s election to the Senate in 2007, according to a report released Tuesday.

NTSB wants all new vehicles to check drivers for alcohol use.

At the second defamation trial of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, underway in Connecticut, Jones appeared outside the courthouse on Tuesday morning and in brief statements to reporters called Judge Barbara Bellis “a tyrant.”

Tesla Megapack battery fire at California utility spurs shelter-in-place warning due to hazardous gasses.

The Pentagon has ordered a sweeping audit of how it conducts clandestine information warfare after major social media companies identified and took offline fake accounts suspected of being run by the U.S. military in violation of the platforms’ rules.

UN Secretary General condemns hate speech, misinformation across social media platforms.

Nearly half of Evangelical leaders said in a new survey that they have been disinvited, blacklisted or excluded because of their point of view or “guilt by association,” according to the National Association of Evangelicals.

The campaign of Democratic Senate candidate John Fetterman is walking back comments he made last year that appeared to call for the release of all second-degree murderers from Pennsylvania’s prisons.

Matthew McConaughey is not letting being blackmailed into sex at 15 or being molested by a man at 18 make him “afraid of relationships.” He was knocked out by a guy who raped him. I am always curious when unusual events “clump” in people’s lives like being blackmailed into some kind of sex with an ugly woman at 14 and then knocked out and raped by a man, will clump with being an A-list actor allowed to run for office without meeting the gangstalking/domestic-intel brigade. Could be coincidence, or not.

Blackstone announces commitment to 2,000 refugee hires across global portfolio companies and real estate properties, hiring of 1,500 refugees in the U.S. alone. Refugees=CIA assets, and this is a cover story.

Hurricane possibly hitting Florida’s panhandle on September 30. Might be a good time for anons in colder climes in the US to think about getting heating oil. Especially as Russia now begins to turn up the temperature in Ukraine.

Pope Francis sought to meet with Xi Jinping, but China declined.

China is capable of blockading Taiwan, U.S. Navy Commander says.

Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic speaking in a media interview, says he is expecting a conflict in the next couple of months, though he is not certain of the scope of conflict and whether it will rival World War II.

Four Russian-occupied regions in Ukraine have said they are planning to hold “referendums” on joining the Russian Federation in a series of coordinated announcements that could indicate the Kremlin has made a decision to formally annex the territories.

Russia seeks to annex Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson into Russia.

WW3 fears as Putin prepares to go all in on Ukraine: Russia paves the way for conscription and scrambles to annex Ukrainian territories, warning the West ‘all forces’ will be used to defend them. If this works like the vaccine, all of the Western nations will assemble all the Lefitsts, LGBTQs, migrants, Biden supporters, and other Russia opponents, send them into Ukraine, and Putin will kill all of them for us. Because at this point I am not sure how many conservatives will join America’s tranny military under its homo “leadership” of faggy “leaders” like Milley to fight for Globohomo and Joe Biden’s money laundering operation. Plus, if you go over there, you will just be killing great Russian K-strategists for Joe Biden and Claus Schwab, so you could get gangstalked back at home. I’d be less than motivated.

The armed conflict in Ukraine cannot be resolved through negotiations under current circumstances, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Monday, as cited by Interfax.

British Intelligence warns Ukraine Russia is about to launch its own counter offensive that pulls out all the stops, and Head of Chechnya Kadyrov says, 

“That’s it. Let’s move on to a new tactic of a special operation against the Ukronazis. We ain’t gonna deal with them anymore. Discussed all the details with Magomed Daudov, the Chief of the Operational Headquarters of the Chechen Republic. The enemy will soon face the most difficult consequences for themselves as part of the new plan of retribution. All of Russia’s previous actions will now seem like childish pranks to them. Bandera, you have a limited time left for rest, then it will be very, very bad. Take these words as you like, treat them as you please, but remember them just as you memorized the slogan “AKHMAT SILA”. Only those who will treat this message as an unkind sign for themselves and make balanced conclusions for salvation will be lucky. Get ready and keep your eyes peeled.”

Arms shipments to Ukraine do not constitute a military conflict with Moscow, a senior bloc official has said. It appears Moscow is actually the one to determine that.

US tanks ‘absolutely on the table’ for Ukraine: Pentagon.

Liz Truss vows to send “military aid worth billions” to Kiev. It feels like these are all the “More for Israel” crowd, as if Israel has some dog in this fight. Or whatever gets the money we send to Israel (minus Israel’s cut) has some interest there.

Republican senators signaled tentative support for additional $12 billion in Ukraine aid that the Biden administration has requested following a classified briefing on Monday.

Attorney General Merrick Garland signed a deal Tuesday with Ukraine’s top prosecutor to strengthen the ability of the United States when it comes to investigating Russian war crimes. Yet more tax dollars wasted on bullshit.

Russian nationals living in Estonia will have their firearms forcibly confiscated by the police if they refuse to hand them over voluntarily under a new law. A notable sign of globohomo is they hate gun ownership.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-marches-farther-into-liberated-lands-separatist-calls-urgent-referendum-2022-09-19/

Ukraine aid could be a non-starter in a GOP-controlled House this fall. If Putin could trigger a complete collapse of Ukraine prior to the election, complete with videos like in Afghanistan of the chaotic fall and utter defeat, as well as a sudden spike in fuel prices in the runup to the elections, it would vastly increase the chances of a Republican House majority that would block any more Ukraine aid.

Democrats brace for life with a House GOP majority.

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell tamped down expectations of a breakthrough on the Iran nuclear deal at the United Nations General Assembly this week, saying he does not believe a meeting with Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi would be productive.

Kemp widens lead over Abrams to 8 points in Georgia governor race.

Legal challenges to student loan forgiveness loom before midterms as GOP lawmakers and conservative groups are laying the groundwork for court battles to block Biden’s executive action.

Biden greeted by chants of “Fuck Joe Biden!” in UK.

Gun rights activist Heller scores another win against DC government — gets them to drop limits on rounds carried.

Mitch McConnell turns optimistic Republicans could win Senate majority.

Veteran gay rights protester, 74, who was at 1969 Stonewall Riots is attacked by pro-trans mob at Pride event for sign dismissing transgenderism as ‘Woman Face.’

Americans under felony indictment have a right to buy guns, judge rules.

Poll shows Minnesota Republicans surging in statewide races as crime runs rampant.

Kari Lake’s lead is increasing in Arizona, Lake 50.0% Hobbs 45.6%.

Spread r/K Theory, because Globohomo doesn’t have what it takes.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

Map break.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

Excellent poast!! I see that a Khazarian downvoted it. Bwahahahahaha. Dilate moar Khazar scum

Bman
Bman
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

So that’s where the Khazar milkers come from. lol

Fart Simpson
Fart Simpson
2 years ago

>> Because at this point I am not sure how many conservatives will join America’s tranny military under its homo “leadership” of faggy “leaders” like Milley to fight for Globohomo and Joe Biden’s money laundering operation.

Same about as conservatives who to the clot shot: 80%

Most conservatives are dopes who do whatever their TV /Faux Newstells them to to.

The remainder follow their pastor/priest who gets direct orders from the regime.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Fart Simpson
2 years ago

It’s important to note the entire point of boot camp is to beat compliance and following orders into your skull on repeat. The physical fitness and all that is important too, but a compliant soldier who follows orders is the end goal.

There’s just too many examples from history that disprove the notion that masses of soldiers will suddenly grow a spine and refuse evil orders.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Fart Simpson
2 years ago

Not my pastor…

Farcesensitive
Reply to  Fart Simpson
2 years ago

LOL
It’s nowhere near 80% of conservatives who took the frankeshots.
And the corruption of the military is far more obvious than the frankenshot issue.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Fart Simpson
2 years ago

That remaining 20% is the Pareto Distribution 20% – ie the 20% that get 80% done.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

We don’t talk about Gisele Bundchen enough.

In 2014, she was listed as the 89th Most Powerful Woman in the World by Forbes.

This either makes Forbes a total joke, or she really is very much used to influence people.

Bündchen has appeared on more than 1,200 magazine covers.

Given what we know now, everything about her life is as painstakingly engineered as a fighter jet.

Or is it his life?

https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=gisele%20bundchen&kind=video

Would fit with the LGBT gender confusion project.

Brady admitted he now goes to her and listens to her predictions.
After their win in 2019 Bündchen said to Brady, “See, I did a lot of work. You do your work, I do mine!”
Brady continued to recall and said, “She said, ‘you’re lucky you married a witch, I’m just a good witch.”

She has also done tons of NGO stuff. How many of the people you know are genuine, relentless do-gooders? More likely a shiny front for money laundering, with some token help to keep up appearances.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
2 years ago

Or she may be Cabal Aristocracy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous Conservative
2 years ago

Victoria’s Secret’s were “Haram”

Last edited 2 years ago by Anonymous
Jolly Jimmy
Jolly Jimmy
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

The VAST majority of female high fashion models have very masculine features for a woman. Their bone structure is not feminine. Their lack of feminine hips is the first clue for the layperson. Another is their faces: look at top models, squint your eyes a little, and notice that they could almost be teenage boys with long hair and boobs.

Purely coincidentally, high fashion is run by homosexual men.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Jolly Jimmy
2 years ago

True, homosexuals run fashion so prefer manly women, but Victoria’s Secrets models include transgenders.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Jolly Jimmy
2 years ago

Mother knows best.
Probably 50 years ago, before all the Globohomo bullshit was exposed to us, my mother said, “Most Fashion Designers are homosexuals who hate women, and they make hideous designs to make women look ugly”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Jolly Jimmy
2 years ago
Fart Simpson
Fart Simpson
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

Wait, Tom Brady married a trannie? The humiliation rituals never end…

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

yup that aint no “she”
clear as a day

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

brady is a trump supporter

Bman
Bman
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

She’s a good witch alright. Her mouth is pretty busy around playoff time with all the referee dick she’s had to suck. It would be trivial to rig all NFL games.

Rizzo
Rizzo
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

Gisele is not a male. Upon examination of her bikini clad body one can see that her navel is lower than her waistline. That is something that cannot be faked. Large hands and feet and ripped low fat body does not make her male people. Now upon saying that there are a ton of famous trannies in plain site like Serena Williams who does not pass that test

Another Dave
Another Dave
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

The question is, why does Trump keep playing along with all of the bullshit theatrics?

If he has the documentary evidence that the election was stolen, among other revelations, then exactly what special moment are they waiting for to reveal it?

How many years are they going to wait?

What the hell is holding them back?

The longer they wait, the less the general population will care. People are already demoralized from watching the world burn every day.

This movie SUCKS!

phelps
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

First, this is CNN, so the reporting is almost certainly shit. CNN reporting is the legal equivalent of “wet streets cause rain.” Based on this shit reporting and reading between the lines, this looks like a perfectly normal legal exchange.
Prima facia is the lowest standard of review. The judge has said, prima facia, that a document with classified markings and no declassification markings on it is classified. Prima facia literally means the first look at the face. You look at the documents, they look classified.
That means that the judge needs at least prima facia evidence that they were declassified and not marked. That can be as easy as Trump or someone saying, “POTUS declassed these on X/X/XX” or “This EO ##### says anything the POTUS takes with him is declassed.” People have said that out of court, but the judge is saying that someone needs to say it in court, under oath, either by writing or in person.
Trump’s lawyers appear to be warning, “you are violating our rights if you make us fully prove the declass” because there is a threatened indictment. That doesn’t mean that they are refusing to provide prima facia evidence, but just (rightly) warning the judge that they are going to push back past that.

From the article, my emphasis:

“If the government gives me prima facia evidence that they are classified documents, and you don’t advance any claim of declassification, I’m left with a prima facia case of classified documents, and as far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of it,” Dearie said.

Trump’s lawyer Jim Trusty said they are not in a position to fully disclose their defense or specifically address the declassification issue until they see the documents.

And that’s a fair claim. The .gov is trying to set them up. They want a blanket “every piece of paper was declassed” claim, so that they can come up with some edge case (like an informant taking a doc from the WH and leaving it a MAL in Trump’s office) and Trump’s lawyers are wisely avoiding that. They are saying, “you show us the document, and we will show you where that document was declassed.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

US is so messed up

teo toon
teo toon
2 years ago

US DOE To Release 10 Million Barrels More From Strategic ReserveThis is treason. Is Biden, or more likely, the Obama puppet masters,paying of extortion;or is “he” laundering money to the oligarchs who are stripping this country just as they sought to strip mine Russia in the 1990s?

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

They show and tell you who and what they are.
SPR sales, refinery fires, food processing plant fires, phony currency shortages. Who really believes that those happened organically!
All are preludes to their sick endgames. Build Back Broke, starving, forced into digital currencies tied to social credit scores. Learn Mandarin in your spare time. /:

teo toon
teo toon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

All animals are equal under a cabal run system. Some are just more equal than others.

Maniac
Maniac
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

If you have an (R) after your name, pretty much.

Benny Le C
Benny Le C
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

see: Cosby, William

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  teo toon
2 years ago

Imagine attempting to prove this. Expecting rigorous solid evidence somehow.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

Step father just admitted to the hospital for blood clots. Mid 70s. He went to the emergency room when he was pissing blood. They did a scan and didn’t figure out why he was pissing blood, but did find blood clots in lungs and legs. They say the pissing blood has nothing to do with the clots. However, I am not very convinced about that. Both him and mother refused my advice not to get the death-jab.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

The only thing left for you to do is for them to make peace with God.
And you must prepare yourself too.

Marielle Redclaw
2 years ago

Ukraine aid could be a non-starter in a GOP-controlled House this fall.

If Israel wants it, the GOP will bend over and ask how much. The US is an occupied country since before I was born, with everyone conditioned to Pavlovian responses when anyone questions the occupiers. It’s more disturbing than any dystopic movie or novel.

wlindsaywheeler
Reply to  Marielle Redclaw
2 years ago

I have a thread for you Marielle. I don’t know if you want to visit it; it is on the Homeland Security forum. It is titled “Cultural Marxism is a threat”. I’m an old JBS, anti-communist fighter and I lay out the history in America of anti-communism and against the Jews. You might find it interesting. You do have to register in to read it. Except for the first post, I have over 300 comments that are behind the register wall.
https://homelandsecurity.ideascalegov.com/c/idea/81060

Sam J.
Sam J.
2 years ago

I happened to find a torrent of all the shows of “Married With Children” TV show.

The wise words of Al Bundy,

“You know when your wife asked you what you are thinking. If you wanted her to know you would talk about it.”

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8cxmqu

17:00

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pIx_nyQeTA&t=79s
I think this guy has an important point. We tend to focus quite lot on the technological and practical things about surveillance but important aspect of it is spiritual or maybe even supernatural. The original ringleader of surveillance is Satan himself.

Just Me
Just Me
2 years ago

Posted this on yesterday’s page, but it may have been too late to be seen by many.

re: picture of King Charles’ wife and her ”mask”
Just noticed something about this picture.
If you enlarge it and look below the broach, you will notice a lace pattern.
The bottom of the “mask” is actually the top of the lace portion.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

There is this phenomenon called the “Silence” just like this youtube story:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XsgKPd_3TUM&feature=youtu.be

In that particular place. The sky the moon and the sun and everyone around you looks fake and flat. And there is this dead silence as you feel you are watched by unknown entities. Reality looks like it has been paused. It also feels like there is a pressure on the person caused by this phenomenon as well as intense involuntary fear.

Many people in the comments report this phenomenon. And those places may either be glitches in reality or traps set by extra-dimensionals who abduct humans who seemingly never come back. Demons allowed leeway to do their shenanigans?

Bman
Bman
2 years ago

“https://voxday.net/2022/09/21/the-cancellation-of-dilbert/”
Look fellow anons. I was banned too!
***PSST…..i’m really still a gatekeeper***

Sam J.
Sam J.
2 years ago

US tanks ‘absolutely on the table’ for Ukraine: Pentagon.

Tanks are fairly worthless these days if the people you are using them against have any sort of decent anti-tank weapon. You can not make a tank that can’t be killed by a two man portable anti-tank weapon. Israel had some of the best tanks in the world and Hezbollah took them out. They could not defeat them with tanks.

We send tanks over there, the Russians aren’t fools. They blast them with artillery, planes and maybe portable weapons. A huge waste of time and money. Whoever came up with “let’s send them tanks” has been watching too many cowboy movies where the cowboys square off on the main street. Any tank sent over there will likely never see a Russian tank or a Russian.

The Russians, if they are smart, might even let them move these things up close to the line before they blow them to hell. Make them waste tons of resources to move those heavy things around.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

Tanks very useful for pacifying, intimidating, and terrorizing unarmed-lightly armed civilian populations. Ukraine is occupied by the International Jews. Israel uses tanks against unarmed Palestinians.
American police now use armored cars to intimidate pacify White Americans. America, Canada, NZ, Australia, Western Europe all Property of ZOG.
Tanks are a great tool for pacification of lightly or unarmed civilians.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Anonymous
2 years ago

I get that but you can do that, as you say, with APC. I was specifically speaking of a general war and tanks. These are not cheap and require a lot of fuel and maintenance.

BTW if you cover a tank with lots of gelled gasoline, napalm, it becomes very difficult for them to operate properly. No it won’t stop it but it becomes hard to see.

“…Israel uses tanks against unarmed Palestinians…”

Special Forces from Israel went into Gaza during the last Lebanon war in APC’s and got their asses shot off. Hit with anti-tank weapons to disable them, then machine-gunned the soldiers attempting to flee. They only tried this once. After that they backed up and used artillery to randomly blast Gaza.

phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

Part of the problem is that the US doesn’t really field tanks as tanks. All of our tanks are designed as tank destroyers, not tanks, and that is how our crews are trained. We treat tanks as purely for taking out other tanks, as an artifact of our cold war doctrine of trying to defend Europe from the Soviets.
Tanks are for supporting infantry. (We picked some of that back up in Iraq in the city fighting, but we still aren’t using them like the rest of the world) They are rolling pillboxes, designed to be used from the rear, hull down, putting artillery and heavy machine gun fire on specific points, to allow infantry to advance. That’s how the Russians use them, and that is why we focussed our tanks on killing them (because we were defending, not advancing.)
We don’t use our tanks that way very often, because our tanks aren’t designed for it. They are designed as tank destroyers, and more importantly, our crews are trained as TD crews. (In WW2, there was an instance of TD crews getting to Europe but having no TDs to man. They were given the standard Shermans instead, and suddenly these Shermans weren’t getting chewed up by Tiger tanks anymore, but were popping Tigers with regularity, at almost the same rate as the Hellcat TDs. Training matters, maybe more than the gear.)
Tanks are not invulnerable. Tanks are almost invulnerable used correctly. We put them on the point, and they get ambushed and killed. The Russian tanks taken out in Ukraine were almost all ambushed in transit. AFAIK, the Ukes have taken out almost no tanks in actual battles. I think I’ve seen one river crossing battle where the Russians actually lost tanks in a stand up fight, and even then the Russians seemed to have a 3:1 KD ratio.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  phelps
2 years ago

“…WW2…TD crews getting to Europe…given the standard Shermans instead, and suddenly these Shermans weren’t getting chewed up by Tiger tanks anymore, but were popping Tigers with regularity, at almost the same rate as the Hellcat TDs…”

Do you know what they were doing? I would interest in what or some links explaining what they did. I saw a good movie, except for a few really stupid pozz moments, with Brad Pitt about WWII tanks. Fury 2014 It was good. In it they used the maneuverability of the Sherman’s to zoom around so that the tigers could not get a fix on them. Is that what they did?

“…Tanks are almost invulnerable used correctly….”

What does this mean? I’m not being facetious or annoying, I really don’t know. It would seem to me that with a decent anti-tank weapon and the ability to move it quickly in something with light, say .308 level small arms protected armor, it would be difficult to do anything with tanks. The tanks would spend all their time attempting to keep from being killed. The actual mission would suffer greatly.

Phelps
Reply to  Sam J.
2 years ago

Correctly means as infantry support. Man portable AT weapons should hit an infantry screen before they see the tank. The tank can put aimed fire on them once they are in contact with your infantry. Infantry AT relies on stealth. If you have it on a light armor vehicle, then either it gets tagged by your infantry AT, or its behind its own screen and not engaging your tanks.

Farcesensitive
2 years ago

Ukraine Threatens 5-Year Prison Sentence For Anyone Voting In “Sham Referendums”

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-threatens-5-year-prison-sentence-anyone-voting-sham-referendums

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Farcesensitive
2 years ago

Democracy in action!

Every vote that we count counts!