I was thinking about this. Does it make sense? Who cares what that little runt does in his own little fiefdom? We knew he was never going to nuke anyone, even if he did develop the weapons and the delivery system. And yet Trump has had Mattis talking about the necessity of taking the casualties to raid North Korea with boots on the ground. The US military has engaged in provocative exercises with South Korea just over the border. There were leaks of US Special Forces specially trained and poised to launch decapitation raids. There was talk preparing South Korea for the onslaught it would have to endure when we went in. Why all this effort?
Now Trump has purposely escalated that conflict to the point North Korea is actually threatening Pacific territories of the United States with Nuclear tipped missiles. It isn’t even good for Trump politically, because the leftists are panicked at the thought of nuclear war.
What if that was the point? The whole thing had nothing to do with North Korea. It was all about Hawaii. Once that threat rose high enough, NSA would have had to make sure it had a defined procedure to transfer their secure databases back the CONUS in the event Hawaii was going to be lost due to a Nuclear missile attack. And since a nuclear missile attack would happen so fast, those databases would have to have been shuttled back in record time – much faster than if there were just a Chinese land invasion. Maybe they laid more underseas cables, maybe they simply arranged under those conditions to take over the entire internet backbone for thirty minutes. However they did it, they had to make it so the entire thing came back to a location in CONUS in under 40 minutes. They would have run drills, to make sure everyone knew what they were doing and it happened right.
Then, once all the chess pieces are set, off goes the Hawaii Missile alert for mysterious unknown reasons, saying an incoming ballistic missile is about to strike, and it is not a drill. And all of a sudden, Donald Trump has God-like knowledge of every communication that has gone over the air or on a wire in the US in the last ten years.
Maybe the Deep State, which controls the US Intel apparatus, knew that the Hawaii facility would be slagged with White Phosphorus at the first hint of a raid. So they talked and texted freely, just like Strzok and Page, knowing the database was out of Trump’s reach in Hawaii, and could never affect them.
Until suddenly it wasn’t under their control in Hawaii, and the God Emperor suddenly had God-like knowledge of everything done to harm America and subvert her Democracy, and the evidence to prove it.
Suddenly those Checkmate tweets look an awful lot like they could have been taunts, which only hit home with the Deep State after President Trump took control of all the evidence he needs to drain the swamp once and for all. I could see them scratching their heads beforehand and dismissing the Checkmate tweets as bullshit, only to shit their pants once they realized what had just happened.
Checkmate. And it would be a case where the NSA surveillance was about to defeat white, until one move which reversed the game and turned everything around.
As a hypothesis, it is out there. But then again, this President is a man who dreams big, and never half-asses things.
The reports on social media are that Oahu and other islands kept connections up through the whole thing… but the Big Island lost all bandwidth (phones, internet, etc.) Completely dark until several hours after the “all clear” was broadcast, meaning they didn’t even get the all clear notice for hours.
The weird part of that is that the NSA facility is on Oahu, not the Big Island.
Was it plugged into the big Island, to gain access to some major node for just such a transfer?
After reasoning it out in the other comment, I think the Big Island may be where it at least initially landed.
I want to believe.
Very interesting. If there were a database in Hawaii it would probably include China-US sigint. The facility officially “opened” in 2012 though. So all Asia-N.America telecom traffic would be there. ALL of it. Maybe Trump is hunting someone? Maybe a purge of Chinese-bought Hollyweirds? We can only guess.
I have been wondering that for the longest time: why is Trump wasting so much time and energy on NK who are zero threat to the United States unless provoked into a corner so tight they might as well push the button? My thought has been that Trump just enjoyed going toe to toe with blowhard Kim. But honestly it eludes me. I do know that the NeoCons desperately want another war. But Trump?
Problem with that is it should be freed from one NSA data store to another. Although if some else had gained control of the second site that might work
The alleged BDT was set up as a wartime provision. Meaning, when it gets activated, it’s assumed that it’s activated as the opening moves of how nuclear combat. You don’t leave the data with the NSA, which may not even exist in a full blown exchange.
You drop it on SAC, who has the servers in secure bunkers to preserve it and then turn it into actionable intelligence in the (literal) fallout.
So the point isn’t to move the data from one NSA server to another — it’s to move it from a NSA server to a USAF MI server.
Q has said from the start that the NSA is Good Guys, but MI is the ones with the ability to use the intel.
So that might be in a D.U.M.B, or Deep Underground Military Bunker. Q happens to make sense again.
OOPS! hahahahahahahaha Take that MFr’s.
I don’t think this theory makes a lot of sense.
Wouldn’t it make more sense for there to be several instantiations of the database spread out at several facilities. Hawaii, San Antonio, Utah, Maryland.
If Hawaii were then at risk of compromise or capture then the kill-signal is sent and a local instantiation would electronically self-destruct and then potentially physically self-destruct.
Moreover, if I were really feeling spy-v-spy I’d have the database instantiation at risk randomly generate massive quantities of completely fake data scrambled with real data and no way for those capturing the database to have any certainty about their prize.
This seems a better solution to the problem of a CONUS rebellion, as the mere act of transferring the database exposes it to unnecessary risks. Seems like a good way to loose your trillion dollar database.
All I know is that Snowden said the reason he had free “roaming” access to everything, and could pull such varied files, was because he was tasked with transferring the entire databases to the new secure facility in Hawaii. Normally a normal agent would only have compartmented access to the data directly relating to his area of responsibility, and any roaming through unrelated areas of the database would trip a flag, and a deep, detailed counter-intelligence investigation, because they would assume he was roaming on behalf of a foreign agency. In that area I get the impression you are expected to stay in your lane for the security of the agency.
It stuck with me because I wondered how the only guy in intelligence who would burn everything to the ground as best he could just happened to be handpicked to rise from a lowly CIA security guard, up through the ranks to the one position where he could roam freely without any oversight, and he made that rise in record time. Something seems strange there, but who knows.
The other thing I thought was somebody did not want the databases on CONUS for some reason. The only reason I could see was if there is massive unrest, and they lost a data facility in Colorado, one, there would be huge intel for the rebels there, and two, the rebels might reveal just how detailed a file every American has. I was a huge, pro-America, country-first guy. But I now suspect that if everything were made public, it would be the fall of the republic, and full scale civil war, overnight.
As for inserting fake data, they say they cannot produce storage fast enough to store what is coming in now. Literally, they catch everything out there, on every line and airwave. I am not sure they could get storage for everything, let alone create the army that would be needed to create a similar amount of fake data from nothing. It might also explain why they don’t have multiple copies of everything. They can’t get enough storage to duplicate it all. I’m sure some is backed up, but with the full thing, it becomes an issue of giving up some data to maintain copies, or getting everything and risking the loss.
problem with that. first of all, storage is no longer an issue. new and latest storage can store an entire library of congress several times over on one biochip- smaller than a grain of rice. so, no, it is not about storage- must be about something else. people are not aware of how advanced our systems really are when it comes to electronics, surveillance, and storage.
Two problems with this — one the HI center is going to have fresh intercept data from the Pacific SIGINT and COMINT collections. That’s it’s nominal purpose, after all.
Second, this plan really only makes sense if the DB gets moved to someplace outside the NSA. Like I said, in the event of the plan being activated, there might not even be an NSA to send it to, because as far as I know, none of the NSA facilities are hardened against nuclear attack. That’s the military’s domain, so the DB should be up at a military, hardened facility.
Hell, it might not have even come back to CONUS. It might be sitting at a hardened facility at Pearl Harbor right now, taking the slow cable to replicate back to CONUS (which, now that I think about it, could explain the Big Island comm outage — not from transmitting, but receiving.)
As for sending massive quantities of fake data, I doubt it. Two reasons — one, bandwidth to and from HI is expensive, and the NSA would rather spend that money on xBoxes and rotating people in and out of HI postings (such a hardship!) and two, the NSA is lazy.
Where does Admiral Rogers play into this? I was under the impression he was one of the “good guys” in the IC, and as such, would be willing to make info available to POTUS without all this finagling.
It is tough to say who actually controls things, and who has access. Beyond that, it is possible there was a kill switch at Oahu, or some other reason going in head on would have failed. I can’t say the probability of this being the case, it might be small, but it fits with the internet outage, the strange nature of the alert, and Q’s posts.
I think you are definitely on the right track here. Don’t know anything about the deep-intel game, but this whole thing just feels…off…
“I want to believe.”
I don’t believe a word of this nonsense about Trump. 57 degree super hero thinking and all that because of one little problem. He’s done nothing. I could see him taking a year to consolidate power but the amount of events and actions he’s passed on and not done anything is too great. There are a LOT of events that were done in the past he could leverage to pry off the deep State, that’s what we’re talking about, and he has passed on every one of them. You need to focus on what has actually happened and not what is purposed to have happened or what could happen. This is the most common Jew trick in the book to confuse the blatantly obvious with a lot of boiler plate coulda, woulda, mighta or may be-a.
They want us to think someone will save us and we will have to do nothing to have it happen. I don’t know what their plans are but I see it building up to a crescendo. There’s not much wiggle room left. Trump has done nothing about the “basics”. Wall, mass immigration, false flags, supposed child rape…nothing. I hate to be so negative. I don’t like it but that’s the way I see it.
I can’t say I know everything or much about Snowden but Snowden washed out of Ranger school with busted legs.
There’s another soldier that, supposedly, washed out of Ranger school. Timothy McVeigh. The official story was McVeigh flunked the Ranger course and was out of the military selling stuff at gun shows but…a documentary film maker was shooting a totally unrelated documentary at Camp Grafton and who was there but McVeigh. Look for yourself @0:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVl6mwtLrsk
Longer versions for more info and context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2fN7H1uQNY
I be damned if that’s not Timothy McVeigh. It’s got to be. I know what this means for Oklahoma City bombing but I don’t know if it has anything to do with Snowden. Snowden’s story always seemed a little off to me. Guy with stripper girlfriend, runs away to Russia. It just seems like some stupid put up job.
The Clintons. And Huma were in Hawaii when the false alarm happened so this theory is seeming unlikely
Most at NSA are true patriots…they are the gatherers of intel—they treat their role as a sacred trust. Those who consume/use the intel are where the corruption is. When you gather intel you kind of need to just vacuum it all up, no getting around that without letting your enemies dance around you.
Trust NSA is true