I’ve always said, if you deal with a Narcissist, be aware that they will do things that you couldn’t possibly predict. They could catch you sleeping, and maybe even kill you. Here is an example of what I mean when I say this.
This lady got into a car with her husband, because she couldn’t imagine how it could go wrong. His plan, however, was to drive at high speed, unbuckle her seat belt, and then crash into a tree. I guarantee you, in addition to all his work to disable her airbag, he had also made several test runs at that tree, timing his unbuckle and his speed. This type of thing happens. You need to be aware – if you have seen other indices of aberrant behavior, you may see more in the future, and they may involve killing you. The Narcissist thinks nothing like you do. They are capable of anything.
This is actually a perfect example of the difference in how Narcissists operate. They are all about sneaking, surprising, and avoiding any consequences, much like Liberals seeking to manipulate government to attack the successful. When you have a clever Narcissist who wants to surprise you, and he will do anything to do it, you will be surprised when he wrecks the car, almost kills himself, and risks going to jail for life, just to avoid divorce proceedings. I’m sure before this happened, nobody would have believed this guy would be so crazy.
What is most interesting to me is how they think. In reality they will get so panicky that they will do anything to avoid having you expose their evil in court to everyone else. Have no illusions, this Narcissist went to these lengths because he was running from panic. Outgrouping is among the most horrific things that can happen to these characters.
But in the Narcissist’s head, that all gets twisted around to how brilliant he is, and how much smarter he is than everyone else, because that stresses his amygdala and ACC less. Eventually, the Narcissist actually believes that, because it feels good. Again, the parallels to Liberalism, and its emotion-driven behavior are clear.
If you are ejecting a Narcissist from your life, be careful as you head out the door. Never forget, if you think something is weird, it is, and it may be a glimmer of something very ominous in your future, that the Narcissist has hidden from your view. To the Narcissist, it is your leaving which is most panicking, and therefore it is that stimulus which will provoke the most extreme behavioral aberrations from them. If they were bad when they were with you, they will be worse if you are about to get away.
Of course this applies to governments as well. If your people or your nation are about to eject a movement of Narcissists from power, be aware that they, and the leaders they have elected, will be capable of anything. In these crazy times, this is a point of particular note.
PS – Notice the downmouth, and the cheeks being drawn outward and down, ever so slightly on the narc in question. To me, many narcs have cheeks which look like they are either stretched to the outside of the face, or stretched outward and down, in a grimace. When they smile, the cheeks remain stressed in a grimace, and the downmouth is negated by the smile into a horizontal line, sometimes retaining just a little of the downmouth, making it is clear the smiling muscles are straining against something.
A good example is the pastor here, pictured in jail with a neutral expression, and pictured here, smiling with the innocent wife he was convicted of killing with a cocktail of sleeping pills, followed by a pillow-smothering. You can see that Narc one above has a bit more of a temper (hence the more direct, and brutal car crash attack), while narc two would be more cloaked in his rage (hence smothering a sleeping woman who never knew he killed her), but they are the same animal, both hollow in soul, and equally dangerous.
So is a narcissist a Sociopath and a Psychotic?
No, but the behavioral product of their malady can seem similar, since each will be a deviation from what we would think of as normative, predictable behavior.
The Sociopath is generally less emotionally engaged, and thus more outcome-oriented. He isn’t running from panic, so he can be more deliberative, and weigh the options more carefully. If this guy had been a sociopath, the wife wouldn’t have told friends he would kill her, because a sociopath would have simply decided to kill her, and until he did it, he would have smiled widely. I suspect Romney is on that scale, though for various reasons his sociopathy isn’t pathologic, and probably even helps him in the financial world.
The psychotic will tend to be removed fom reality, to some degree. He likely wouldn’t have planned this so well, or taken such careful measures to avoid responsibility.
Suddenly, I had a desire to scan my pictures for said drooping cheeks.
Would a narcissist be capable of such action?
Probably not. One hallmark of the Narcissist is that they cannot contemplate anything which might be detrimental to their own self image. Their brain begins to overload, and they reflexively assume they could never be defective. So a Narc would tend to not even contemplate the possibility they are a narc, unless you could twist being a narc around in their head, into something cool, and superior.
That said, an individual can show an anguished expression, if they have cause for anguish, such as loss of a loved one. They just should not have an anguished expression as their baseline expression, nor should it underlie every other expression. If someone is smiling against a grimace, then that should be a flag to you to take a closer look, because something may be very wrong beneath the surface.
While I agree with most of what you’re saying here, I disagree on the anguished expression.
My ex husband is a narc, and typically he would have a normal neutral, or a happy expression, while I was with him for 23 years. His smiles were genuine, but sometimes he would have an “evil smile” when he was being abusive towards me. (but more of an “I got you now” look, not the “smiling against a grimace” that you describe)
I left him 8 years ago, so maybe he has that look NOW, because he lost his main “supply,”…?
A Narcissist who feels they are on top of everyone, when they are young, can have a genuine, blissful smile, especially if they feel everyone is fully fooled, and they are living the false reality they create. But it doesn’t last. The moment someone gets ahead of them in some way, even just by being young, with a world full of possibilities, as they are getting old and doorways are shutting, they will begin to have to force a happy facade over their increasingly triggered and angsty interior. That is when you get the grimace smile.
As a general rule, I have found narcissists to be overly focused on whatever is wrong, to the point of ignoring massive pleasure and success, to focus on some insignificant slight or competitive inferiority. And once they do that the smile will become forced. So yeah, as he gets older, it will always become more and more apparent.
Take a look at britains Ian Duncan Smith and David Cameron for examples of psychopathic narcissim .look at how they torment the disabled and the poor . OOPS they’re conservatives aren’t they
Here is the thing. A normal Conservative doesn’t feel that they have any authority to intervene in the private lives of others. A normal Conservative doesn’t feel that their importance supercedes the importance of anyone else, so they lobby for limited outside intervention (government intervention) in the lives of others. So yes, bad things may happen, but it isn’t because the Conservative wishes it. Indeed, as Brooks showed (as cited in the free book), Conservatives are actually quite free in spending their own money to help those less fortunate – indeed much freer than Leftists. Rather a Conservative just doesn’t feel right telling everyone else how it is going to be.
You, by contrast, feel that everyone should immediately recognize you as a superior, and allow you to take as much of their money as you wish, to distribute it as you see fit, to whomever you deem is worthy of the money. That is quite Narcissistic. Might I ask how much you give to charity yourself, and how much you personally sacrifice to alleviate the “torment” of the disabled and poor?
If you won’t sacrifice of yourself personally, and you demand everyone else recognize your inherent superiority and fitness to be allowed to spend everyone’s money as you wish, that is quite a Narcissistic worldview. That is why I liken Liberals and Narcissists. Both operate with a subconscious assumption that the world should listen to them and do as they say, and that anyone who objects is, in some way, tangibly evil. That you could post this here, and not even be aware of the Narcissism underlying your demands, only serves to prove the point.
You are a total ignorant. Conservatives are the scum of the earth, many of them narcs, like our darling President. Of course, you probably not think him conservative. For you fascists he is a communist. lol
Liberalism = Narcissism. Really? That’s your message here? Wow.
First of all, not true. Secondly, a bit oversimplified don’t you think. These connections really don’t make much sense to me. I found this website because I searched “when narcissists attack.” I am pretty shocked that it brought me to a political site. I realize the author is promoting psychology as a way of understanding political thought, but it’s not very scientific to lump a huge group of people together with no evidence except for “frown face.” Just sayin’. This is a socially irresponsible article.
First, our message is that Liberalism is really just the r-selected reproducitve strategy intellectualized. Get used to hearing it – that idea ia about to blow.
On NPD, as a Liberal, your fundamental tenet is that you know what people should do because you are superior, and you should be allowed to structure government in such a way as to have government make them do it. And, annyone who opposes the dictates that you force upon them through government is evil and mean to not just accept you telling them what to do.
The position of small government conservatives is that government needs to get out of people’s lives, so they can all do as they want, freely. We don’t try to use proxies to tell others what to do. We feel each person should be allowed to live their own life, and minimizing government is a great way to free people from petty tyrants.
I’ve seen NPD from too many angles. It and Leftism are the same things.
>This is a socially irresponsible article.
Again, as an inherently superior being, so you dictate to the peons – no one may have a different view, because your view is “the” view. Good luck with that in the coming collapse.
If he even bothers to read your reply, his lizard brain will be frantically skittering around, looking for a place to hide from the H8 FACTS™ you dumped in his unprepared lap.
LOL! All facts today are H8 FACTS™ today.
Good to see you meho.
The magic of RSS lets me know whenever somethin’ stirs here.
YES!!!
Let me guess? American soccer fan = Narcissist.
No, not really.
I think a person feels a warning in their spirit when a narc is planning to kill them. It happend to me an the plan of the narc was aborted, that time.
I think when you deal with these characters, your brain develops a constant threat assessment program, which runs 24/7, below your normal consciousness. It sees stuff you miss, deduces stuff you don’t know, and it will give you that little voice in the back of your head which warns you of danger. You are right – people need to listen to it.
Speaking of Narcissists………..(and psychopaths), here’s the entire reason why this country and the world is so effed up. The jigsaw puzzle is big but it’s easy to put together if you look at it from the top of the Pyramid down rather than the bottom up:
http://www.nwosurvivalguide.com/ Novus Ordo Seclorum……………Ordo Ab Chao! (Truth is hidden in plain sight for the uninitiated goyim)
A gentleman in Houston has cheated and lied to his very ill girlfriend. He has lied about everything to women about his girlfriend since February. She has frequently been in the hospital battling her disease. His girlfriend has a rare disabling neurological disorder, that some affects are permanent. He habitually lies, talks to other women, solicits pictures, and continues to let his exes into their lives. His girlfriends mother also has late stages of cancer and he knows. He previously dated multiple people at once and gas lighted and manipulated girls to believe he is a good person and they are at fault. He thinks he is invincible and his stature is far greater than anyone to believe he is this person. Do you know this gentleman?
My narcissist had been abusive in every way. The day after filing divorce papers he turned on the charm and convinced me to come over for a motorcycle ride. I ended up with a hysterectomy because of the accident we were in. He ended up paralyzing his dominant arm. Looking back, now that I have been no contact for almost a year – after putting myself through more hell feeling guilty and staying to care for him – I still feel in my gut that that wreck was meant to kill me. Whether it killed him or not… he wasn’t concerned with that… he just wanted me dead. The last two months I lived with him, I remained on the couch with a meat cleaver stuck between the cushions because it was so hostile. I kept my phone recording at all times, especially while I was sleeping. Sometimes he would get up in the middle of the night and say the most belittling and vile things to me – knowing I was sleeping and couldn’t hear him. He knew I was done just by my face. The day I moved my belongings I made sure to show up with several people… he still made a scene with two of them. And would say the most awful things to me every sparing moment he happened to be able to slip something in without other people hearing him. It was excruciating the first several.months going no cotact. I still struggle because I think of him often. But now instead of it being this desire for him to truly miss me, it’s all boiled down to the paranoia that he has instilled in me. From seeing the heartless things he was capable of doing with no remorse. And the things he has said he would like to do to me out of spite and anger. I live in fear every day. And in all honestly, no amount of therapy will be able to change it. Every day he wakes up breathing I will have to look over my shoulder. And what’s worse, is that’s the reality that most of us have to live with after we muster the courage and strength to leave our narcissist. I send my love to all of you. We all have our stories with all the different little details. But at the end of the day, we all fear the same thing: Death by their hand instead of the Hand of God. My prayers are with you all.
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What dos being a liberal have to do with anything. good article started out great but your emotional comments ruined it. Yuk!!!!! Stick to the topic.